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Go tell that to Mayakovsky or Hesiod :) David On 8 June 2018 at 07:24, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > No takers > > So e.g. Silliman -- above the level of the sentence there's no real use > for anyone else, it is not exchanged, and so that level exists only for the > individual reader, who then has to reuse it in their own (new) way. > ? > Luke > > > On 8 June 2018 at 03:42, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> > the renewal of language >> >> I would say, reuse in a new way >> >> No takers, so, yeah. >> >> Cheers, >> Luke >> >> >> On 6 June 2018 at 10:09, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> you say seance... >>> >>> let's not in any way fight about the CP. indeed, let's talk about them, >>> even >>> >>> *How to act out an immoral impulse* >>> >>> >>> – I remember Jeremy asking me, apropos of nothing that had gone before >>> 'Don't you think "My words echo/Thus in your mind" a very arrogant thing >>> for Eliot to have written?' >>> >>> – my eyes have seen what my hand did >>> >>> Conceptual poetry aside, poetry is, at its last, the renewal of >>> language, not a terminus. See the neo or late modernism of *The English >>> Intelligencer*, or Eliot's future ideal lyric, or Silliman's >>> l=a=n=g=u=a=g=e theory of 'aura'. I have tried to develop a craft that will >>> convince the reader that my autobiographical (and autobiography may well be >>> inescapable however much poets like Prynne have attempted to eradicate >>> human subjectivity) language is a renewal. As such, and as well as >>> discussing the poetics (predominately an antagonism between objectcism and >>> objectivisim) I've tried to incorporate, and how they might, together, make >>> for the essence of such a poetry, I will tell the story of how it is that >>> allusion and quotation can substitute for autobiographical truth. I will >>> conclude that I hope this craft amounts to a "break through the fallacy of >>> constituted subjectivity" (Adorno). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6 June 2018 at 07:50, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> - Is anyone still here? - >>>> >>>> I'm not sure. Insufficient data says my solipsist robot. Maybe we >>>> should invoke W.S.Graham. Seance, anyone? >>>> >>>> Tap tap >>>> >>>> Dave :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6 June 2018 at 02:40, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Even should want to die broke, defeated, alone. >>>>> >>>>> Is anyone still here? >>>>> >>>>> Luke >>>>> >>>>> On 19 March 2018 at 18:31, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> More rejection letters... maybe I'll have only one fan, ever ;-) >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Luke >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4 March 2018 at 06:51, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess the answer is to do your own thing and be happy about any >>>>>>> success that comes your way -- that it's not an either you're appreciated >>>>>>> or it doesn't matter, and you're not acting outside those two >>>>>>> possibilities. Be well, as Buddhists seem fond of saying. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Luke >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >>>>> link: >>>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-I >>>>> RISH-POETS&A=1 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following >>>> link: >>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-I >>>> RISH-POETS&A=1 >>>> >>> >>> >> > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1