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More than 15 years Luke. I think I've been on it for about 20 and I was by no means the first. I think I can say with assurance that in all that time we've never come to a conclusion on anything so that it might possibly be said with almost no qualification or caution that this could almost be a case of poetry really rivalling philosophy. David On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 9:51 pm Luke, <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > (I’ve written to Luke to clarify the tone of those remarks > > Yes Peter did and I wasn't offended anyway. I hear the list has been > active for 15 years, so really I can't complain. > > Luke > > > On 1 June 2018 at 15:58, Tim Allen < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Well if I was Luke I would have been offended by your post - if there was >> humour in it then it was sly humour - and it was concerned with someone's >> personality, so how you can say the opposite below is beyond me. My use of >> the word 'snobbish' has offended you in return - well sorry - I accept your >> saying what you said was 'off the cuff' and not meant to come across the >> way it did. >> >> Cheers >> >> Tim >> >> On 1 Jun 2018, at 15:26, Peter Riley wrote: >> >> The discussions that take place here aren’t, are shouldn’t be, concerned >> in any way with people’s personalities, their characters momentarily or >> generally, their age, their anger or their calm, any more than the state >> of their digestive system. It is about poetry and deals in concepts and >> ideas, prospects, definitions, techniques, etc. with regard to the art. >> There is no reason why it should ever engender bad feeling, and I don’t see >> why a quite off-the-cuff, jocular, sweeping kind of rebuttal shouldn’t be >> read as involving serious points, even if rather exasperated. >> >> But this sight just breeds bad feeling, sometimes achieved with >> considerable effort (Tim, your second sentence is complete nonsense, so is >> your third, and really, to be called “snobbish” is about ***ing limit. >> Poets! >> >> (I’ve written to Luke to clarify the tone of those remarks). >> >> PR >> >> On 31 May 2018, at 12:00 am, BRITISH-IRISH-POETS automatic digest system < >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Wanted to respond to this but waited to see if Luke would, which he has. >> How can Peter know what vocabulary Luke has or has not? And the snobbish >> implication seems to be that Luke is using certain words without the >> correct experience of their usage, or something like that.. i.e. he is >> being pretentious. I don't think this is so. I enjoy Luke's form of >> intellectual shorthand - it's provocative and always interesting - both >> light and heavy at the same time. >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1