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Arthur, I've asked on the platform a number of times for evidence that such a call out wa*s made to or in the Caribbean*, and I have had no evidence provided. I'm happy to be set right, if you can provide evidence to the contrary. We however have records of British cabinet and contemporaneous accounts that speak to not wanting the Empire Windrush colonials well before the Empire Windrush arrived. Indeed, the Colonial Office actually sent an officer to tour the Caribbean to dissuade colonials from coming to Britain for work, and this was well before the Empire Windrush set off! Peace, Kwaku On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 7:49 AM, arthur torrington < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Kwaku, you do not know that those that came on the Empire Windrush did > not do so as a result a call out by the British government to the Caribbean > colonies to come help re-build Britain. > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------------------------- > > *From:* The Black and Asian Studies Association <[log in to unmask]> on > behalf of Kwaku BBM <[log in to unmask]> > *Sent:* 19 June 2018 05:58 > > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: NATIONAL WINDRUSH DAY > > Dear Arthur, > > I'm glad you've had the opportunity of interviewing these veterans, as > that\'s a useful resource. > > But it does not take from the point that those that came on the Empire > Windrush did not do so as a result a call out by the British government to > the Caribbean colonies to come help re-build Britain. > > Regards, > > Kwaku > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 6:10 AM, arthur torrington < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > I have interviewed many WWII Caribbean service who remained in the UK, > like Laurie Phillpotts, and Nurvin McKoy who went back to the Caribbean on > leave. The latter returned on the Empire Windrush already employed by the > RAF after the War. Both men told me that very many Caribbean servicemen > were employees of the RAF. Allan Wilmot (age 93 in August 2018) was > offered RAF jobs but refused, returned to the UK on the Almanzora in > December 1947, and eventually became an entertainer. We do not know how > many remained in the UK with RAF jobs or the large number of ex-servicemen > who decided to escape the eyes of the authorities and continued to live in > the UK. This is what Allan tells me. > > > Arthur > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* The Black and Asian Studies Association <[log in to unmask]> on > behalf of Kwaku BBM <[log in to unmask]> > *Sent:* 19 June 2018 00:05 > > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: NATIONAL WINDRUSH DAY > > Dear Arthur, > > I hear you. But my reading of the those Servicemen is that of being > demobbed and returned to the Caribbean. From what I know, those who stayed > were either married to British English women or in education. > > It was a case of thank you, good bye war is over for the servicemen. No > post-WW2 appeal was made by the British government before 1948 asking for > Caribbean labour. > > There's commentary at the time by any of the passengers saying they're > heeding a call to come help a war-torn Britain. Indeed, all those quoted > talk about coming to get a job, which is why describe them as economic > migrants. > > And for for 250 or so servicemen said to be on the Empire Windush, just > about 60 said they wished to enrol in the armed services, hence being taken > to Wimpole Street hostel, instead of the deep shelter in Clapham. > > See you later at the Sam King lecture. > > Regards, > > Kwaku > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 3:00 PM, arthur torrington < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > I didn't envisage the Government making it a day for all migrants, but a > focus not only on African-Caribbean but Caribbean. I have a photo of an > Indo-Caribbean in the Clapham South Deep Shelter. We mustn't ignore the > 395 years since our ancestors contributed to the enrichment of Britain. > > You are aware that most of the passengers on the ship were ex-servicemen, > they were asked in 1946/1947 (before the Windrush) to remain in the UK to > help rebuild Britain. They had a variety of skills needed here. In 1947 > some of them went home to the Caribbean colonies to say visit their > relatives and to return. MV Empire Windrush brought them back to the UK. > > Arthur > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* The Black and Asian Studies Association <[log in to unmask]> on > behalf of Kwaku BBM <[log in to unmask]> > *Sent:* 18 June 2018 11:23 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: NATIONAL WINDRUSH DAY > > To be fair, Patrick's aim for Windrush Day was to celebrate ALL Migrant > contributions. Initially, I thought it ought to have focused on Caribbean, > or more specifically African Caribbean. From what I can see, the > Government's focus will be on Caribbean - I'm sure what they mean is > African Caribbean,. as like many, they don't realise that Caribbean is Not > synonymous with Caribbean people of African HERITAGE - there are Caribbean > people of European, Asian etc heritage > > What I'm more concerned about is if the Government is going to refer to > the Empire Windrush in historically inaccurate terms, such as the > passengers being invited to come help rebuild war-torn Britain, the 492 > passengers or the ship arriving on June 22 etc - these myths and > conflations are exposed in my programme: Look: The Other Windrush Stories > on Saturday June 30: www.bit.ly/OtherWindrush > Look: The Other Windrush Stories! <http://www.bit.ly/OtherWindrush> > www.bit.ly > How much do you really know about the true facts about the Windrush > narrative and other African British histories? Be prepared to discover > historical facts which have been obfuscated by myths! There are lots to > commemorate in 2018:30 years since the introduction of African History > Month UK, 30 years since the launch of African Jubilee Year, 50 years since > the 1968 Race Relations Act, 55 years since the Bristol Bus Boycott, 60 > years since the launch of the West Indian Gazette, 60 years since the > Notting Hill Race Riots, and 70 years since the Empire Windrush brought a > large number of people from the Caribbean ... all very important histories > worthy of commemoration. However, this event aims to question whether we > can continue these commemorations by re-telling the same histories that > don't quite match up with the facts, myths, conflations, or leaving out or > glossing over necessary, but less well-known aspects of the various > narratives. History consultant Kwaku will re-run elements of his 'African > British Hi > > > Kwaku > www.AfricanHistoryPlus.eventbrite.com > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 8:59 AM, MSherwood <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > So no people from Africa or of African descent in the UK prior to > 1948!!!!!! > > > > Marika > > > > *From:* The Black and Asian Studies Association [mailto: > [log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *arthur torrington > *Sent:* 17 June 2018 23:46 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* NATIONAL WINDRUSH DAY > > > > > > Government to announce annual Windrush Day > By PRESS ASSOCIATION PUBLISHED: 18:19, 17 June 2018 | UPDATED: 18:19, 17 > June 2018 > > The Government is set to announce an annual Windrush Day to celebrate the > Windrush generation and their descendants. > Minister Lord Bourne told activists and others who had attended roundtable > events over the 70th anniversary of the beginning of the generation that he > will make the announcement with “great pride” on Monday. > > > It comes ahead of Friday’s anniversary of around 500 Caribbeans > disembarking from the Empire Windrush ship at Tilbury Docks in Essex on > June 22, 1948... > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the BASA list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BASA&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the BASA list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BASA&A=1 > > > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Kwaku > www.AfricanHistoryPlus.eventbrite.com > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the BASA list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BASA&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the BASA list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BASA&A=1 > > > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Kwaku > www.AfricanHistoryPlus.eventbrite.com > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the BASA list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BASA&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the BASA list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BASA&A=1 > > > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Kwaku > www.AfricanHistoryPlus.eventbrite.com > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the BASA list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BASA&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the BASA list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BASA&A=1 > -- Kind regards, Kwaku www.AfricanHistoryPlus.eventbrite.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the BASA list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BASA&A=1