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Hi All, I you were using the camera system. What software would you choose to create OCR'd PDF/A? I imagine LIMB and Goobi would be capable. Is there anything else worth considering? I wouldn't worry about colour calibration or processing tools. Bruno, Thanks a lot for this report. It's very informative. Now I remember seeing one of them in action. Yair, can't go to CeBit this time, but please let me know if you find something interesting there ;) Best Maciej ________________________________________ From: AHFAP, for image professionals in the UK cultural heritage sector <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Bruno Vandermeulen <[log in to unmask]> Sent: 07 June 2018 07:48:51 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Robotic / automated book scanner Hi Maciej, This report is from a while ago (2008), but since then the base technology of Qidenus, Treventus and Kirtas hasn’t changed much: https://digitisation.jiscinvolve.org/wp/files/2008/10/automated-book-scanners-munich-2008-final.pdf Kind regards, Bruno Bruno Vandermeulen Head Digitisation and Document Delivery KU Leuven Libraries – Library Services Mgr. Ladeuzeplein 21 bus 5593 3000 LEUVEN tel. + 32 16 32 50 29 www.bib.kuleuven.be/<http://www.kuleuven.be/> On 06/06/2018, 12:16, "AHFAP, for image professionals in the UK cultural heritage sector on behalf of Maciej M. Pawlikowski" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> on behalf of [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Hi Scott, Thank you for all the links and comments these are very helpful. We have no expectations about the output yet. We want to know what are they capable of. I agree with you and Yair that handling is a big part of it and in real life situation takes more time. I think you are also right that the important part of it would be workflow and software. I terms of image quality, readability might the only expectation this project is looking for so I was hoping that image handling would be easier in that regard. Best Maciej ________________________________________ From: AHFAP, for image professionals in the UK cultural heritage sector <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Scott Waby <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Sent: 06 June 2018 10:04:53 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Robotic / automated book scanner There are also various models from Kirtas: http://kirtas.com/ I've seen most of them in operation over the years, and while impressive, they tend to operate in a way which would make your conservation team wince. Another thing to consider - with high throughout, you'll the data/workflow infrastructure to support it. At full tilt, you're likely to be creating hundreds of GB a day. In my experience, this is one of the most challenging aspects of mass digitisation. Keep a steady flow through your Scan>QA>OCR>Metadata Creation>Ingest, workflow can be very tricky. As soon as one of the dependant steps falls over, you can quickly find yourself with a 10TB backlog of data to process. Increasing scanning productivity is fairly easy to do - increasing capacity in the rest of the workflow can be more difficult. Scott On 05/06/2018 13:12, Yair Shahar wrote: Maciej, The only commercially available product as far as I know is the Qidenus one: http://qidenus.com/technologies/products/robotic-book-scanner/ But as Scott suggested, this needs to be tested and proven to fit your needs and expectations. Seeing it working I would say it can capture a frame every 6-8 seconds and if you factor in book handling and positioning, page count is likely around 800/ hour. A single, higher res camera on a flat bench (like the DT Versa) and an operator might give higher overall throughput with fewer holdups and more consistent results. BR Yair From: AHFAP UK cultural heritage sector <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>><mailto:[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Scott Waby <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>><mailto:[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: AHFAP UK cultural heritage sector <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>><mailto:[log in to unmask]> Date: Tuesday, 5 June 2018 at 10:05 To: AHFAP UK cultural heritage sector <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>><mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Robotic / automated book scanner Hi Maciej, What are your expectations/requirements in terms of daily throughput? I would always take the promises of automated book scanner manufacturers with a pinch of salt. In my experience, their figures are based on very small sample sizes, and when it comes to real world projects, the numbers you can realistically expect are significantly lower. I would also invite a member of your conservation team with you when reviewing potential machines - if only to keep them in the loop. I have always favoured multiple (significantly cheaper) manual machines over single automated ones. We've had several projects with more than a million pages, and I find it's easier to manage the work and hit production targets when the risk is spread over multiple machines. Scott On 05/06/2018 09:28, Maciej M. Pawlikowski wrote: Hi All, Is anyone using or have experience with automated or robotic book scanners? I am interested in looking into options for quick digitisation solution of modern bound books. The image spec is quite low so no high expectations there. 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