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Dear Richard, and members of the list, regarding Gibson reflections and descriptions I recommend the lecture of a 1973 paper (part of the works presented in the DRS London Conference - Design Activity: THE HOUSING ENVIRONMENT AS A PROBLEM OF OBJECT DESCRIPTION Roel Daru Bouwcentrum, Rotterdam Here the author adresses the "Form Description", referencing Gibson and Gombrich. An extended abstract is available here: https://www.designresearchsociety.org/cpages/publications-1 The abstract is contained in the file: 1973_london_design-activity_theme-01.pdf (page 1-22-1) best regards to everybody *Alejandra Poblete P.* DESIGN DEPARTMENT ACADEMIC *Senior Lecturer | Design School* Faculty of Humanities and Social Communication Technologies +56996896490 Universidad Tecnológica Metropolitana www.utem.cl <https://www.facebook.com/utem.cl> <https://twitter.com/utem> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOD3DHD_bafDGzGPYxTtRRw> <https://www.linkedin.com/edu/school?id=11004&goback=&trk=feed-body-name> <https://www.instagram.com/utem.cl/> 2018-05-17 9:21 GMT-04:00 Richard Herriott <[log in to unmask]>: > Dear Terrence: > > Thank you for mail. > > Two things arise from it. One, is my understanding of outcome. I view the > aesthetic experience of the viewer as an outcome. There is a designed thing > (e.g. a chair) and the way the person see it (as beautiful, ugly, > welcoming, bulky etc). That effect corresponds to one of the kinds of > effects you mention. > > Aesthetics is a tricky word because in part it attaches itself to the > thing and not the person experiencing it. People often say they were > unhappy with a thing´s aesthetics when they mean the form of a thing. The > aesthetics are what they experienced in their mind. That's how I use the > terms, anyway. > > All the outcomes of design matter. I am right now only focusing on > aesthetics because I am working on a book dealing with that topic. > Naturally, I pretty concerned with moral outcomes such as sustainability > and the like plus narrowly practical outcomes such as effectiveness and > efficiency. > > Those clarifications aside, I agree with your message. There is the matter > of measuring outcomes and aesthetic outcomes that are only dealt with in > quantities (e.g. X% liked the chair) miss something about design that > matters. > > I wrote a super article about it at some point which people ought to read > and cite as often as possible: What is like to see a bat? > http://www.svid.se/upload/Forskning/Design_Research_ > Journal/Design_Research_Journal_nr_1_2017/Artiklar/ > What_is_it_like/What_is_it_like_to_see_a_bat_Design_ > Research_Journal_nr_1_2017.pdf > > Regards, > > Richard > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> > Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design > Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design -----------------------------------------------------------------