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I challenged ACB three years ago on this issue it was taken to Clinical Practice Section committees in the ACB but no interest. See attachment
I've also asked for information on exactly what prescribing health scientist will do. No detail in response
Come on collective
John 

    On Friday, 18 May 2018, 10:38, "KENNEDY, David (GATESHEAD HEALTH NHS FOUNDATION TRUST)" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
 

 #yiv9289569521 -- filtered {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv9289569521 filtered {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv9289569521  p.yiv9289569521MsoNormal, #yiv9289569521 li.yiv9289569521MsoNormal, #yiv9289569521 div.yiv9289569521MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;}#yiv9289569521 a:link, #yiv9289569521 span.yiv9289569521MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9289569521 a:visited, #yiv9289569521 span.yiv9289569521MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9289569521 p.yiv9289569521MsoAcetate, #yiv9289569521 li.yiv9289569521MsoAcetate, #yiv9289569521 div.yiv9289569521MsoAcetate {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:8.0pt;}#yiv9289569521 span.yiv9289569521BalloonTextChar {}#yiv9289569521 span.yiv9289569521EmailStyle19 {color:windowtext;}#yiv9289569521 span.yiv9289569521EmailStyle20 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv9289569521 .yiv9289569521MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;}#yiv9289569521 filtered {margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}#yiv9289569521 div.yiv9289569521WordSection1 {}#yiv9289569521 Hi Shirley,    As clinical biochemists we often work very closely with the endocrinology team on dynamic function tests and other specialist investigations.    For over 10 years, myself and my clinical scientist colleagues at Birmingham Heartlands Hospital supervised a regular clinic on behalf of the endocrine team.    An FY1 took the bloods and gave the drugs but everything else was done by clinical scientists.    The results were then presented at the Endocrine MDT meeting with notes written up by biochemistry staff.    In my experience having clinical scientists directly involved in these tests ensures the correct protocols are followed and samples are collected correctly.    With detailed clinical knowledge of rare endocrine disorders, clinical scientists can often ask the patients the right questions to help with the history that junior medics may not.    Regular patient contact for clinical scientists is also very valuable for developing higher level clinical advisory skills.    I have moved on now, but this clinic may still be going on the Good Hope Hospital site.    Dr David Kennedy PhD FRCPath EuSpLM Consultant Clinical Biochemist Head of Biochemistry | South of Tyne and Wear Clinical Pathology Services Gateshead Health NHS Foundation Trust | QE Hospital | Sheriff Hill | Gateshead |NE9 6SX T: 0191 445 6511 | E:[log in to unmask]  |www.qegateshead.nhs.uk        From: Clinical biochemistry discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf OfSPOORS, Shirley (DONCASTER AND BASSETLAW TEACHING HOSPITALS NHS FOUNDATION TRUST)
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Subject: Clinical Biochemistry clinics    Dear Collective Brain    A few years ago, when Modernising Scientific Careers was in its infancy, I attended a meeting in which Sue Hill spoke about how we, as Clinical Biochemists were extremely good at what we do but we needed to be more visual and work with our medical colleagues to deliver patient care.    So, can I ask if there are any non-medical Clinical Biochemists who either work alongside their medical colleagues or work with other Health Care Scientists to deliver regular out-patient clinics? Is this something we should be moving towards? What are your views/concerns? The pharmacists have made this transition so why haven’t we?    It would be useful to know what’s happening around the UK.    Many thanks    Shirley    Dr Shirley Spoors Consultant Biochemist & Clinical Lead (Clinical Biochemistry & Immunology) Department of Clinical Laboratory Sciences Doncaster & Bassetlaw Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust  T:   01302 642824   or   01909 572486 F:   01909 502462 E:   [log in to unmask]    Laboratory Tests: What is this test for? What does this result mean?  http://www.labtestsonline.org.uk    This email is confidential, private and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies. Do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this email or take any action in reliance on its contents; to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this email has gone astray before deleting it.    Thank you for your cooperation.    

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