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Dear Samantha,

 

Thank you very much. The paper is now available as a preprint on PsyArXiv for anyone who wishes to read it: https://psyarxiv.com/a5469

 

Best wishes

Martyn

 

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Martyn McFarquhar, PhD

Lecturer in Neuroimaging

G30 Zochonis Building

The University of Manchester

Brunswick Street

Manchester

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+44 (0)161 306 0450

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From: Samantha Brooks <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, 11 April 2018 at 10:10
To: Martyn Mcfarquhar <[log in to unmask]>
Cc: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [SPM] 2 x 2 Repeated measures ANOVA

 

Dear Martyn,

 

Your aforementioned paper would indeed be an asset to the imaging community - we too are having various discussions about modeling a complex ANOVA at first level in SPM.

 

Looking forward to reading your paper,

 

Best regards,


Samantha


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Dr Samantha Brooks, Ph.D (Download Website) 

Dept. of Psychiatry,

J2 Building, Groote Schuur Hospital

Anzio Road

Observatory

Cape Town

 

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:51 AM, Martyn McFarquhar <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi Karina,

Adding the main effects and interactions in the flexible factorial module only adds these effects to the design matrix, it doesn't create the contrasts for those effects. I'll discuss creating the contrasts separately below, but in terms of your design being a 2 x 2 fully within-subject, you will need multiple models to calculate the F-statistics using the correct error term. For instance, your effects are:

Main effect of time: needs a model containing Time and Subject after averaging over Self
Main effect of self: needs a model containing Self and Subject after averaging over Time
Time x Self: needs a model containing Time, Self, Time x Self, Subject, Time x Subject and Self x Subject

The contrasts are another matter because of the necessity of creating estimable functions of the parameters in overparameterised designs. In unbalanced designs this is particularly tricky given that most people are after the standard Type III sums-of-squares.

Because this is such a common issue on the list, I have actually written a paper going over the how and the why of both of these issues, with an example in SPM. I submitted it to NeuroImage, but the reviewers came back stating that none of it was new and no one would find it useful. Not that I'm bitter, but it'd be nice to actually know that some people would find it useful! I'm planning to put it up as a preprint on arXiv, but I'll send you the current draft separately. I hope it will help answer your questions and help you understand what you need to do.

Best wishes
Martyn

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Martyn McFarquhar, PhD
Lecturer in Neuroimaging
G30 Zochonis Building
The University of Manchester
Brunswick Street
Manchester
M13 9GB

+44 (0)161 306 0450
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