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On 27 April 2018 at 12:31, Michael Martin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> If it’s not too late to make a suggestion: https://www.libertylondon.com/
> uk/crocodile-stapler-000554221.html
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> At £70 it’s a snip (or a snap).
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> *From:* A general library and information science list for news and
> discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *AngelaC Wright
> *Sent:* 19 April 2018 11:39
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: Staplers in the library
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> I’m sure Amy who placed the original query feels thoroughly supported, and
> that many of us know all too well of the tribulations eloquently expressed
> by Frank.
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> And for anyone wanting an update on our Poundland staplers when I thought
> I’d possibly jinxed them by even mentioning that they were still working –
> they are still fine today and happily gambolling on the stapler table.
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> On Behalf Of *Chopra, Vijay
> *Sent:* 19 April 2018 11:14
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> I’m trying, but office supplies seem to be a staple problem.
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> On Behalf Of *Graham Gamblin
> *Sent:* 19 April 2018 11:05
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> *Subject:* Re: Staplers in the library
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> To all experiencing stapler problems in their libraries: hold it together,
> guys.
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> On Behalf Of *Kate Eaton
> *Sent:* 19 April 2018 11:02
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> *Subject:* Re: Staplers in the library
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> I would second Frank’s comments to you Angela.
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> If we don’t have something constructive to add to a lis-link post on a
> topic that is of real operational importance to a colleague, I think the
> more courteous and supportive course of action is to just not respond.
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> We all enjoy a good laugh in the world of libraries at some of the
> idiosyncratic behaviours and unreal expectations from our library users,
> but it’s not usually at the expense of fellow professionals.
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> Best wishes from another small, specialist, HEI library whose team’s
> current bugbear is finding a reliable A3 comb binder,
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> On Behalf Of *Frank Trew
> *Sent:* 19 April 2018 10:51
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> *Subject:* Re: Staplers in the library
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> Dear Angela,
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> I think people were wrong – even rude – to laugh and scoff. It is an
> ongoing issue and there is solace in knowing that other institutions are
> grappling with the same problem.
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> We had the issue here when the stapler we provided went “walk-about” and
> had been missing for a while.
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> When I put a call out to the students to return it, no questions asked, I
> was ridiculed no end, in what came to be known as Stapler-gate.
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> And yet, when others came in to use the stapler and I explained that it
> was no longer available there was merry hell to pay.
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> And it isn’t just staplers. Students seem to expect all sorts of supplies
> to be made available to them:
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> sellotape, tippex, pens, scisssors, even paper. When one student goes and
> helps themselves to a piece of A4 from the copier it seems churlish to take
> them to task.
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> But if all of them start doing it and taking as much as they like then the
> paper bill soon racks up.
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> So I for one am delighted you raised the issue and have been interested to
> see the replies from other institutions.
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> And maybe the answer in the end is that we have to grin and bear it, but
> at least we do so knowing that many others are doing the same.
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> Frank Trew
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> Rose Bruford College of Theatre and Performance.
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> On Behalf Of *AngelaC Wright
> *Sent:* 19 April 2018 08:44
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: Staplers in the library
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> Well… it’s a library discussion list and care and retention of library
> staplers are a popular topic as evidenced by the links shared here.  And
> the time spent on sorting out staplers that work is of nothing compared to
> the time spent explaining to students why we didn’t have one available when
> they were withdrawn temporarily…
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> Perhaps it should have been left for a Friday afternoon J
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> Angela Wright
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> Librarian: Birmingham Campus
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> *From:* Frances Hendrix [mailto:[log in to unmask]
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> *Sent:* 18 April 2018 16:07
> *To:* AngelaC Wright <[log in to unmask]>
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> *Subject:* Re: Staplers in the library
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> I am sorry, but just read these emails out to my husband, and we both fell
> off our chair-laughing. Is this really an issue to ask for help on.
> Sorry, but hilarious
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> > On 18 Apr 2018, at 15:56, AngelaC Wright <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
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> > Hello Amy,
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> > I'm sure librarians everywhere understand and feel your pain on this one
> - we have had similar problems for many years and have only recently found
> a solution. Just by typing these words I appreciate I may have jinxed ours
> and in 5 minutes' time I'll be out replacing them all!
> >
> > We have shared the regular problems of staplers going missing, being
> broken, or just wearing out very quickly. It doesn't seem to matter how
> expensive/ hardwearing they are, they all lasted a few weeks at best before
> coughing up a tangle of staples and expiring or vanishing. Here they are
> fixed down through attaching to PC security cables that have a simple metal
> loop at each end to attach to table legs at one end and the stapler at the
> other. Some staplers have loops so these can be attached, but more often we
> were getting Facilities to drill a hole in the stapler to attach a small
> screw. It wasn't an ideal fix, but as the staplers only lasted weeks at
> best, it did the job. I did try using chains from Homebase, but these
> proved to be no match for a determined student.
> >
> > We found a supplier of cheap, reliable staplers that have now been going
> for over 6 weeks, are easily unjammed if someone's hit them a bit hard, and
> take 26/6 staples for normal stapling. The supplier is... Poundland. The
> staplers look quite flimsy but this turned out to be a boon as students are
> being more careful with them. Documents up to 10 sheets are fine - we also
> have a big heavy-duty stapler for thicker documents, but generally if
> neither of those suit students are using the hole punches. To fix them to
> the security cables I bought some luggage combination locks with the
> thinnest loops we could find; with a bit of care these fit through the
> hinge at the back of the stapler. They've been doing several hundred
> documents a week each judging by how often we have to refill them, and
> no-one has tried to steal them as it's obvious they wouldn't be worth
> anything on any underground stationery market! Asda staplers (£2 and much
> chunkier) are also good for the money, plus the hinge at the back has more
> space to fit a security chain or other attachment through.
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> > Can't say it would work for everyone, but so far the cheap option seems
> to be working for us.
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> > Kind regards,
> > Angela
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> > Angela Wright
> > Librarian: Birmingham Campus
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: A general library and information science list for news and
> discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>] On
> Behalf Of Amy Jackson
> > Sent: 18 April 2018 13:20
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Staplers in the library
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> > Good afternoon everyone,
> >
> > I’m just wondering whether any other libraries own and maintain a
> stapler/ supply of staplers for use by customers? We are an academic
> library with a large student body and find ourselves very frequently
> replacing removed/broken staplers. Has anyone cracked this? Can anyone
> share any tips for efficiently and effectively providing staplers for use
> by customers?
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> > Many thanks,
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> > Amy Jackson MCLIP
> > Enquiries Support Librarian
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