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Dyi I think that is really interesting and I get your desire to stretch the terms to interrogate power relations but I’ve always thought that all slashes / or \ serve to dichotomise categories: male/female, gay/straight, veggie/meat eater etc. Therefore / or \ risks reinforcing the idea that you are either ‘abled’ or you are ‘disabled’ and never the twain should meet. This undermines the social model of disability where it is the context of your ability that is important and how that context can move you between categories. G From: The Disability-Research Discussion List <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of D.D. Huijg Sent: 23 April 2018 18:31 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: dis/ability Interesting, I have a different reflection. When researching lived experiences and in descriptive use, I think the problem might arise less so; I'm writing a piece now and no need for complication there - I use disability and ableism. In my doctoral research, however, I also have to address social categories in abstract terms and I have not found so far an equivalent of e.g., race, gender, sexuality, age and class for disability; neither disability nor ability offer the neutrality that other social categories as words offer. For instance, I can talk about race and gender relations and mean a lot of things. Differently, talking about ability (or abled or enabled) as well as disability (disabled) relations does not offer the same theoretical possibilities - for me, dis/ability offers a (temporary) solution to that. To me it impractical if a social category conceptually constitutes power and inequality, precisely because we need language to describe and analyse their relation. Because of that , I think that concepts should not be limited to discussing the role society, inequality and power have therein - in my perspective that conflates conceptualisation, analysis and description and is, as such, insufficiently useful. In addition, dis/ability can precisely point to the artificiality of their distinction, as long as the forward-slash is conceptualised as such. The forward-slash is not without meaning, nor does it have to be. But possibly it could be written with a backward-slash, ie dis\ability, which could well be conceptualised as the oppression by 'ability' over the 'dis' and be more useful in that sense. Another challenge I would like to provide is that the problem of the normativity of (non-disabled) ability, the problematic idea that disability excludes ability, and society that disables etc is not solved by focussing on the forward-slash; these issues are constitutive of the word 'disability'. The forward-slash, I would suggest, merely highlights these issues, it does not create them. As also highlighted in the use of both disablism and ableism; disablism as 'discrimination (etc) against disabled folk' does not conceptually suffice to analyse and explain everything disability (and non-disability) related. In short, to avoid the conflation between social category and power and inequality, I would suggest either a different term or variant, or would indeed use dis/ability (in fact, I'm pretty sure I've done it already). And, yes, I am dis\abled. Actually, looking at it while typing, I quite like that use. A bit of rebellion in a backward-slash :). On another note, may I ask what the question/answers are for? On Monday, 23 April 2018, Vincent West <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: I absolutely agree with Simi - society is responsible for the removal of disabling barriers so ‘disability’ has nothing whatsoever to do with an individual’s function and everything to do with society’s [mostly government’s] negative attitudes towards disabled people that lead to physical, institutional and organisational exclusion. Vin Vin West MBE Chair Arfon Access Group 01286880761 07771536760 Glyn Dwr Llandwrog Uchaf Caernarfon LL54 7RA [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> On 23 Apr 2018, at 17:37, Simi Linton <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: I dislike it enormously!! It reinscribes the notion of "ability" and posits that ability and disability are opposites. Simi Linton Disability/Arts Consultancy http://www.similinton.com/ “Remember George, this is no time to go wobbly.” On Monday, April 23, 2018, 12:15:40 PM EDT, m.hersh <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Has anyone come across the term dis/ability? If so, what do you think of it? I would be gratefuly for a speedy response. I will send my perspective afterwards, so as not to bias responses. Thanks Marion [University of Glasgow: The Times Scottish University of the Year 2018] ________________End of message________________ This Disability-Research Discussion list is managed by the Centre for Disability Studies at the University of Leeds (www.leeds.ac.uk/disability-studies<http://www.leeds.ac.uk/disability-studies>). 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