Hi Mike,
Sorry I have been away. This is probably overkill but we have been using
a closed version of GitLab (https://about.gitlab.com/) for a larger
collaborative development project.
Its use is a bit varied between project partners, but it has proved very
useful, for code development, managing design issues and more.
As I said, probably overkill, but just thought I would mention it in
case it is useful.
Joe
On 21/03/18 09:46, Mike Ellis wrote:
> Thanks everyone.
>
> Yes, FWIW we use Trello extensively - both in the content shuffling
> phase and beyond. We’re also huge teamwork.com fans and this now has a
> "board view” (https://www.teamwork.com/boards) which is basically
> Trello on steroids. I’d also echo both Dee and Karolina - being able
> to connect these tools together (Teamwork to Google Drive / Trello to
> Dropbox for instance) is a winner, and saves on having to move large
> chunks of stuff around.
>
> (Aside: we use Trello for snagging / bug checking extensively and on
> the back of client feedback are building a SaaS tool for this - ping
> me if interested!)
>
> But: Trello gets a bit unwieldy with big projects, and there is also
> the learning curve issue that Jane mentioned. And, yes, spreadsheets
> do indeed run the world, goddamit.
>
> Jon - I think the reality about the copyright side of things in my
> experience is that orgs usually manage this outside of / parallel to
> the CMS flow, so although there is a requirement to have maybe a
> copyright caption on images, the heavy lifting with IPTC or other
> means of metadata tagging isn’t often a CMSy / web project thing or
> has been dealt with prior to this moment in the project.
>
> The thing I’m thinking about is that at the beginning of a project
> there is typically a “throw all the things in a pot” thing, after
> which there is sorting and filtering, editing and moving - and I feel
> that this bit could be made more intuitive.
>
> Anyway, thanks all. I will keep reading and investigating.
>
> cheers
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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> On 20 Mar 2018, 13:52 +0000, jon pratty <[log in to unmask]>, wrote:
>> Hiya Mike and all
>>
>> I'd agree with Jane on this. Having just spent a fun but
>> platform-heavy six months working with a bright and bushy-tailed
>> bunch of startup people, I'm now feeling nostalgic for the days when
>> we kept things simple. So one spreadsheet to rule them all - maybe in
>> Google Docs/Sheets or similar. My partner spends ages trying to get
>> different bunches of people to use Trello (and I love it, and Slack)
>> but across a group of partners in different places/sectors, using a
>> new platforms feel hard.
>>
>> The key tasks over time with content are mainly about managing
>> sign-off of edited text, and keeping that process simple and uniform
>> and understood by all. You ideally want double or triple reading of
>> text by proficient and literate proof readers, followed by sign-off,
>> all of which is recorded in the system.
>>
>> Then you want media resources accessioned/uploaded into the CMS by
>> someone who knows the provenance of the media, and can fill in
>> copyright status etc. This needs to follow the media wherever and
>> whenever it is used. It's good to get the original author of the text
>> to see the image captions, too, as picture context is often lost when
>> images are stored in separate repositories to the original content.
>>
>> I'd say from experience the most important thing in the publishing
>> workflow is not what platforms are used, but how to manage key info
>> and data about the content within the CMS itself. Older museum CMS
>> and some newspaper systems manage image and text rights, user
>> permissions and edit/sign off really well. (Index + !!!) If I was
>> commissioning Wordpress plug-ins for museum use now, I'd hope for
>> rights management, legacy management and accessibility at the top of
>> my list of wants.
>>
>> Just think of all those ancient NOF-Digi projects that no-one can
>> resurrect because we haven't got a clue who owns any of the rights
>> any more...
>>
>> Jon
>>
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>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Jane Audas <[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>> I found GatherContent unwieldy, too much functionality and too
>> little common sense behind the design.
>>
>> I don't love them but I have to say spreadsheets are often enough
>> for most builds and, more to the point, content teams (and
>> stakeholders) can understand and use them.
>>
>> The problem with a lot of 'tools' (Basecamp, Trello even Slack)
>> is they represent one more system for the wider team to learn to
>> use. I still find something that can be emailed and opened on
>> crappy old PCs, on old versions of Office, are needed when
>> working with a lot of institutions. Even if that doesn't
>> represent the digital way of working a lot of people on this list
>> might use / prefer.
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