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On 18 Mar 2018, at 16:02, Eleanor Dodson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Does it matter? The refinement will only use observed reflections.

It should not matter for refinement and map calculations (needs to be checked carefully). However it does matter for deposition when multiple entries are analysed and the PDB deposition software (rightly so) says that you have information mismatch. And it confuses users and most of all it confuses deposition. It would confuse me.

Best wishes,
Garib


> As Andrew says your output from dataprocessing includes a complete list of all possible indices to the upper resolution limit with a Free R flag assigned to the indices. This makes it easier to keep the same FreeR assignments for all your sets of measurements, which is a good thing.. 
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> There is a library call which REFMAC could use which would return the actual limits of the observed data - that small modification to the program would give a more sensible log file for the refinement. 
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> At present the REFMAC outputs a reflection list will include all indices,  with the Fcalc PHIcalc information listed for missing data . I find that quite useful in some cases, but if you do not wish to use the terms there are ways of excluding them from subsequent calculations.. 
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> Eleanor
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> On 18 March 2018 at 12:04, Garib Murshudov <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear All,
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> As far as I know it could happen when you are using i2. We are working to fix this problem. At the moment the best solution is to use advanced options in the refmac interface and define resolution limits explicitly. For example you can add in the advanced options:
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> resolution 37 2.5
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> where these resolution limits are from the aimless output. Low resolution limit should not affect refinement behaviour, however it may cause problem during deposition.
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> We will have better solution soon. I2 has many good features. Please report if you see some misbehaviours.
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> Best wishes,
> Garib
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> P.S. you can also use advanced options to do things that are not available on the interface yet.
> 1) refinement against electron diffraction. Add
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> source EC MB   #  electron form factor will be used using Mott-Bethe formula
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> 2) you can add occupancy refinement
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> etc
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> On 18 Mar 2018, at 10:46, "Orru, Dr. Roberto" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Dear All,
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>> I am noticing that the low resolution in the reflections files after scaling with aimless and after refinement with refmac does not coincide.
>> In a case I have 37A with aimless but for some reason refmac is 67A.
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>> Any idea?
>> All the best,
>> R.
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> Dr Garib N Murshudov
> MRC-LMB
> Francis Crick Avenue
> Cambridge 
> CB2 0QH UK
> Web http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk, 
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Dr Garib N Murshudov
MRC-LMB
Francis Crick Avenue
Cambridge 
CB2 0QH UK
Web http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk, 
http://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/groups/murshudov/