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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Marco, you may also know the striking blood-of-Christ images in Jeffrey Hamburger's *Nuns as Artists: The Visual Culture of a Medieval Convent*. University of California Press, 1997. But this, too, is mainly from German sources. I can't remember if he deals with Italy. -- Paul On 1 February 2018 at 04:25, Marco Piana, Mr <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > Dear all, > > > > Thanks again for the amazing feedback, and sorry for the late answer. > Things are a bit hectic at uni today. > > Dear Robert, thank you very much for sharing your findings. The “Anima > Christi” perfectly matches Savonarola’s imagery, thus strengthening the > idea that bathing in the blood of Christ was a common topos in Dominican > devotion. > > Dear David, thanks for pointing me towards the Charter of Christ. The idea > of Christ’s blood as ink is very interesting, especially because > Savonarola’s vision talks about bloody marks as well. I will look into it. > > Dear Rosemary, please let me know more about the dating regarding “Anima > Christi” if you can. I intend to mention all this in a note. And to me, > “gushing” sounds way more fascinating than “flowing.” > > > > If I have forgotten to thank someone, please let me know. I will gladly > answer to you in private. > > > > All the best, > > > > Marco > > > > *From:* medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious > culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *David > Winter > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 31, 2018 1:06 PM > > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: [M-R] Bathing into The Blood of Christ > > > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > Haven't had a chance to read the whole thread, but I wonder whether the > Charter of Christ might be useful to you. It's an allegorical motif in > which Christ's sacrifice is compared to a legal document or diploma. > Various elements of the crucifixion (the arma Christi, etc) become > components of the document. The blood of his sacrifice is the "ink" of the > charter. Maybe someone more versed in the motif can recommend bibliography > if it's at all useful. > Best, > > > > David R. Winter > > Associate Professor and Chair, > > Department of History, > > Brandon University > > 270 18th St., > <https://maps.google.com/?q=270+18th+St.,%0D+%0D+%0D+Brandon,+Manitoba,%0D+%0D+%0D+Canada,+R7A+6A9&entry=gmail&source=g> > > Brandon, Manitoba, > <https://maps.google.com/?q=270+18th+St.,%0D+%0D+%0D+Brandon,+Manitoba,%0D+%0D+%0D+Canada,+R7A+6A9&entry=gmail&source=g> > > Canada, R7A 6A9 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=270+18th+St.,%0D+%0D+%0D+Brandon,+Manitoba,%0D+%0D+%0D+Canada,+R7A+6A9&entry=gmail&source=g> > > > > phone: (001) 204-720-1435 > > fax: (001) 204-726-0473 > > > > http://people.brandonu.ca/winterd > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious > culture [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Rosemary > Hayes-Milligan and Andrew Milligan [[log in to unmask]] > *Sent:* 31 January 2018 11:34 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: [M-R] Bathing into The Blood of Christ > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > > Dear Rob > > > > I wondered why it was nagging at the back of my brain and now realise that > it was the imagery produced by the 'modern' (19th century) translation of *Anima > Christi* that is still the hymn most likely to get a Catholic > congregation singing properly. In hymn books I have seen, it has been > attributed to John XXII (pope 1316-34) - but I do not know how accurately? > For those who do not know it, the words most frequently sung (in the UK at > least) are as follows: > > > > Soul of my Savior sanctify my breast, > Body of Christ, be thou my saving guest, > Blood of my Savior, bathe me in thy tide, > wash me with waters gushing [think we tend to sing 'flowing'] from thy side > . > > Strength and protection may thy passion be, > O blessed Jesus, hear and answer me; > deep in thy wounds, Lord, hide and shelter me, > so shall I never, never part from thee. > > Guard and defend me from the foe malign, > in death's dread moments make me only thine; > call me and bid me come to thee on high > where I may praise thee with thy saints for ay. (Edward Caswell's > translation) > > > > Best, > > Rosemary Hayes > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Rob Durk <[log in to unmask]> > > *To:* [log in to unmask] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2018 8:56 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [M-R] Bathing into The Blood of Christ > > > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > Hi Marco > > > > Apologies for being late into the fray! > > > > My general ambit is musical and liturgical but, having edited the music of > Gaspar van Weerbeke's (c.1445-1516+) "Anima Christi" (only a few weeks > back), I did spot this thread only the lightbulb took a little time to come > on.... not an account, but a devotional text, so slightly off your main > topic but I suspect worth visiting for context. > > > > Earliest surviving text is Lbl Harley 2253, c. 1340 > > http://d.lib.rochester.edu/teams/text/fein-harley2253-volume-2-article-19 > > > > There are a few textual variants around but no huge significance > theologically. > > > > "Sanguis Christi inebria me" gets a variety of renditions into English; > "inebriate" is an obvious one, but the most widely used English translation > runs "Blood of my Saviour, bathe me in thy tide", 'inebria' having also the > meaning 'saturate, drench' (per Whitaker's Words). > > > > That, with the following line, "Aqua lateris Christi, lava me," - "Wash me > with water flowing from thy side" I think definitely pulls this text into > your research basket. > > > > The van Weerbeke setting was printed in 1503 in Venice but my gut feeling > is that it dates back to his mid 1470s period in Milan. So a slightly > variant text to Harley 2253 was available to him. > > > > There's an interesting paper on the connection between the text and > Dominican thought on academia.edu: > > https://www.academia.edu/28913047/_The_prayer_Anima_Christi_ > and_Dominican_popular_devotion_late_medieval_examples_of_the_interface_.. > > > > Cheers > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* "Marco Piana, Mr" <[log in to unmask]> > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Sent:* Sunday, 28 January 2018, 18:03 > *Subject:* [M-R] Bathing into The Blood of Christ > > > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > Dear all, > > > > My name is Marco Piana, and I am a Ph.D. student at McGill University, > Montreal. During the last months, I have been working on an article on > blood devotion in early modern Italy. One of my case studies involves a > vision/prophecy where people convert to Christianity by bathing into the > blood of Christ. I was wondering if it is a consistent topos in medieval > Christianity, and if so, if you ever encountered a similar case. > > > > Thank you very much in advance! > > > > All the best, > > > > Marco > > ********************************************************************** To > join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: > [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: > unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to > report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] For further information, visit > our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion > > > > ********************************************************************** To > join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: > [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: > unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to > report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] For further information, visit > our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion > > ********************************************************************** To > join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: > [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: > unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to > report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] For further information, visit > our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion > > ********************************************************************** To > join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: > [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: > unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to > report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] For further information, visit > our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion > ********************************************************************** To > join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: > [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: > unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to > report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] For further information, visit > our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion > -- Paul Chandler, O.Carm. 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