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Hello John
 
I think you were at Harlaxton so you might remember that what I actually said was more in keeping with your suggestion.  I.e. that you can't have a city without a cathedral (if you remember, Peter Fleming made the very point that Bristol was not a city), or a cathedral without a cathedra (bishop's throne) or a cathedra without a bishop.  I compressed for the sake of the list.  I'd forgotten about Chester - although even as late as the fifteenth century, the bishop of Coventry and Lichfield was sometimes called 'bishop of Chester'.  Westminster is, thank goodness, post Reformation and has now been joined by a number of 'cities' given charters without having cathedrals.
 
Best,
Rosemary
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Subject: Re: [M-R] relations between bishops and their cathedral cities

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Rosemary Hayes-Milligan wrote:

I have committed myself to writing something about the relationship between 'my' bishop and his cathedral cities (my bluff was called when I said you couldn't really have a city without a bishop).

You would have been safer saying you couldn't have a city without a cathedral (Bristol had to be made a county in 1373 because it couldn't be a city!) This might have made your life easier! But even that statement isn't completely true: Chester remained a city despite St John's no longer being a cathedral, and Westminster has been a city since 1542.

John Briggs


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