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Hi Alex,

This can be done in PALM and multi-level exchangeability blocks. Let's recapitulate: you have 2 groups, in which subjects have one or two visits. With this you can make group differences of two kinds: whether the two groups on average differ (considering on average both timepoints), and whether the two groups differ in their differences between timepoints (i.e., group by time interaction). You can also test for within-subject effects (time differences) within group, and on average across both groups.

It's necessary two designs for this: one for between-subject effects, another for within-subject effects. The within-subject effects require subjects that have both timepoints. Subjects who have just one timepoint provide no information about change over time. Please see a mockup of these designs here: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/andersonwinkler/mailinglist/design_alex.ods. The 2nd design has the subjects who have just one visit removed (I retained their "id" for clarity).

Hope this helps!

All the best,

Anderson


On 22 February 2018 at 14:45, SUBSCRIBE FSL Anonymous <[log in to unmask].edu> wrote:
Hi Anderson,

Thanks so much for your response! So, you can set it up as two groups even though there is a substantial number of subjects who only have one time point? Sounds good.

We are ultimately more interested in brain changes between patients and controls across time, meaning what is consistently different in patients from controls. However, it will also be important for us to report but will also want to report what changes within group over time.

Best,
Alex