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> playfulness

Not sure that's the same as jokes, light verse, etc..

On 1 February 2018 at 18:06, David Lace <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I don't think Ashbery would have taken himself to be a serious poet. He
> was all about playfulness. He once said that he never called himself a
> poet. I think Harold Bloom was largely responsible in people seeing him as
> serious. And it caught on.
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> As to O'Hara from what I've read of his he comes across as superficial. In
> his life he was seen as being a minor poet. But death tends to be kind to
> such poets.
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> Tony Frazer wrote:
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> I see them both as deeply serious. That doesn’t mean they can’t have a
> sense of humour. Think Martial, Catullus etc; Rochester.
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> Bukowski might be on the other shelf though.
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> Tony
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