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I don’t find the term shameless hussy a problem either. A bit ironic considering SH’s deep-in-the-marrow-of-the-bone sexism ….

So glad you’ve stepped out of the shadows, Catherine ….








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QS: Let’s return to poetics.
JR: When did we leave?

—From the conversation between Quinta Slef and Joan Retallack, The Poethical Wager





On Feb 16, 2018, at 4:55 AM, Catherine Hales <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Well, as one of the "many women "lurking" here" and as a shameless hussy, I don't take exception - except to being compared, however slant, to SH ;-)
Best
Catherine



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Betreff: Re: Silly Squabbling
Datum: 2018-02-16T13:35:35+0100
Von: "David Lace" <[log in to unmask]>
An: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>

Pierre, I personally have no problem with what you said. But many women “lurking” here might take exception. Saying it is only a joke to them would make little difference to them.




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Pierre Joris wrote:

David I’m joking — the poet meant homophonically is Seamus Heaney, obviously, with whom I spent a couple good nights drinking beer & talking poetry & translation, even though I am not very interested in his poetry — or in his translation. A wonderful human, he was, however.

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David Lace wrote:

Pierre, what do you mean by this:

“Never having met the man, I of course would never judge his character — he may be, like that other Irisher,  (what’s his name, I liked to call him the shameless hussy, & whose poetry I don’t care for much either,)”

“Irisher” seem a pit perjorative. And why use the words “hussy” and “whore” in relation to him? Especially after the controversy over the “coot hoor” reference in that controversial thread?