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Flaming Poets! On 12/02/2018 15:02, Tim Allen wrote: > Can you remember what you got shouted down about Rhys? > > When I got shouted down I always tended to fight back - part of the perpetual problem I suppose, not part of the solution. I tend to post when somebody says something I disagree with enough to spend time responding to - I make no bones of the fact I'm an 'issue' person. I still think a list like this is a better forum for discussing stuff in depth than fb but at the same time the way the thing works has pitfalls when it comes to 'tone' and 'misunderstanding' which can lead to some nasty exchanges - the worse thing that happens is when you find yourself being wilfully misrepresented and the more you try to put it right the deeper the hole gets. I think a psychologist would have a field day tracking back through the ways arguments develop here. > > I hope the list continues anyway. > > Cheers > > Tim > > On 11 Feb 2018, at 17:20, Rhys Trimble wrote: > >> yes we 'seldom posters' are quite justifiably put off by these type of unnecassarily pugnatious or dissmissive comments - I do find it tough to post on here because this attidute creates an oppressive and exclusive atmosphere that is off-puting so yes I do applaud luke's effect of having relaxed the attitude here - what is required is an inclusive and tolerent attitude which of course fosters the most free and productive debates as I think common sense dictates >> >> Tim - yeah I've been on here since about 2007 and didn't post much because I got shouted down - I was passionately engaged with poetry then and still am, this dedication makes one I think even more sensitive to being chastised by more experienced writers - now that I am in late youth or early middle age at 40 I am quite unafraid :)