So e.g. how America and its size is the *starting point* ("BIG first of
all") and driving social force of Moby Dick.
Sorry if I'm just being far too vague etc.
On 21 February 2018 at 10:19, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Is the definition saying that the causes of a poem should be if not
> transparent then somehow included in the poem?
> Perhaps I'm being too abstract etc. here.
> Luke
>
> On 20 February 2018 at 16:59, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> I can think of a ultra condensed form: romantic poets affected fake
>> emotions whereas modernists presented spurious intellectualism.
>>
>> On 20 Feb 2018 4:08 pm, "David Bircumshaw" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd probably need several lifetimes to explain.
>>>
>>> On 20 February 2018 at 15:52, Tim Allen <0000002899e7d020-dmarc-reques
>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Some might even commit suicide in full view, while others are intent on
>>>> picking the reader's pockets
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I like that
>>>>
>>>> A great many set out to bamboozle or intellectually swindle.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't like that.
>>>>
>>>> There's as much fraud in poetry as MP's expense accounts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That needs explaining. What exactly would such a fraud consist of?
>>>>
>>>> On 20 Feb 2018, at 15:40, David Bircumshaw wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Some might even commit suicide in full view, while others are intent on
>>>> picking the reader's pockets. A great many set out to bamboozle or
>>>> intellectually swindle. There's as much fraud in poetry as MP's expense
>>>> accounts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
