----- Original Message -----From: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">tracie morrisTo: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 10:21 PMSubject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] hot deskingI feel I have to comment here....not just on this particular thread but other general work related factors too that I often see OH being used as an avenue to “get what the individual / manager wants” regardless of whether its health related or not. Work is Work. If it’s ergonomically acceptable and workable in a reasonable environment that is not detrimental to health and well being (clearly considering underlying factors such as the mentioned CF which would certainly need to be assessed separately), and the opportunity for regular breaks and management support is there, there’s surely no issue, and people DO have the choice if they wish to continue to engage - or not. They started their jobs in an unfamiliar environment......and as time goes on, people leave, get promoted and move on etc., what happens then? Would this be an issue for those who felt isolated due to these factors? How would this scenario for example be managed? It’s not OH IMO.Its rather disillusioning with things such as this travelling via OH to be “medicalised”; this needs to be managed by management. It may be prudent that OH have some advisory involvement along with H&S in the transitional process to ensure that all angles from a health perspective are considered, both physical and psychological, in the event of.....i.e., advising on the provision of rising / adjustable desks, personal portable head sets and other provided equipment, access to anti bac wipes / spray, ergonomic self assessments (to identify any individual needs), management mentoring and regular 121’s particularly for the more vulnerable....all of this, but also a firm stance from the business as if this is the employers decision and it’s not harmful in any way, it is as it is.******************************** Please remove this footer before replying.
Tracie MckelvieMob: 07975 924205Well said Sharon Naylor - you took the words right out of my mouth! I worked with a company that had call centres operating with hotdesking. I was not surprised to find that all nature of medical issues claimed to be “definitely and directly caused by hotdesking” kept me very busy!
Sent from my iPhone******************************** Please remove this footer before replying.One of my clients introduced this, cue a flurry of referrals for people who needed a "fixed desk for medical reasons. Such reasons varied enormously- depression, msd, dyslexia, anxiety, ME, CFS. All very distressed, very contentious ( a big like issues around parking) AwfukSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.You have raised interesting points, Katie.-------- Original message --------Date: 15/01/2018 18:30 (GMT+00:00)Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] hot desking
Many people do not like hot desking, but many companies have successfully
instigated this approach and their employees get used to it and adjust their
workstation appropriately. In my opinion it is loss of a work space which
the employee feel is "personally owned". They can't have a photo of their
child/dog/husband/ car on their desk nor can they have other belongings
around them which some people object to so anticipate disatisfaction.
Hot desking could be an issue for anyone with CF due to using shared phone
handsets, particularly if there are two people with CF who end up using the
same equipment. I appreciate that there is a low chance of this happening
but it could be a significant issue if it did. Also, fitting hands free
phone head sets could be difficult.
Best
Anne
On 15/01/2018 18:01, "Katie Eastwell"
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> Hi everyone,
>
> A large client of mine are in the process of asking their workforce (call
> centre) to move from having their own desks to hot desking. In the past this
> has been commented on in jiscmail - more to do with the ergonomic side of
> things and I think we are comfortable with how to advise on this.
>
> However its the other issues I wondered if someone could advise me on....
> should we expect to see psychological issues with people not having such a
> sense of belonging or being able to sit with their colleagues and/or in teams
> and feeling isolated? The social aspect of work is important and sitting next
> to someone you can get to know and share those difficult/boring moments with
> is what keeps some people going...
>
> Are we also likely to have complaints about the hygiene aspects - especially
> in the flu season and I guess wipes will need to be provided.
>
> Has anyone seen an increase of illnesses/OH referrals associated with large
> workforces changing to hot desking or do you just see initial concerns but
> then everyone just gets on with it? I guess its the way forward for a lot of
> companies these days.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated so that we can advise appropriately and
> know what to expect when it happens.
> Thanks
> Katie
>
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