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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Nicola I /think /"constructo ... fuerit" suggests that the chapel has already been built and I don't think it is a chantry chapel. I've tried to translate but I am struggling (out of practice!) especially with mansum, which ought to be a participle of maneo, to remain; and by the apparent lack of a noun to accompany the adjective divina. Would you mind awfully checking your transcript? Regards Jane On 15/01/2018 11:54, Nicola Lowe wrote: > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > Dear Medievalists, > > May I ask for your expert help, please? > > I wonder if anyone could offer an accurate translation of the text > below please. It is a licence given to John Grey of Rotherfield > (1272-1311) in May 1304 for mass to be said for himself, his wife and > family in an 'oratorio' at Cogges, Oxfordshire. At this date, he was > married to Margaret Oddingsell (1277- before 1359) and they had two > small sons. The manor was held in dower by his grandmother, the > elderly Isabel Duston, who died later that year. Margaret received the > property in dower when John died in 1311. There was a substantial mid > thirteenth-century manor house just east of the church which contained > a rectangular building with pointed windows, possibly a chapel. The > church next door to the manor has an elaborately furnished north > chapel of c 1330-50, apparently commemorating Margaret though no > foundation documents have been found. > > The text is a short entry in the register of John Dalderby (d.1320), > Bishop of Lincoln, Lincs Archives, Dioc/Reg/3 f. 82 v. > > > “Concessio cantar' domini Iohannis de Grey. > > Idi maii. anno quinto apud Lud'. concessit episcopus utentum quantum > imposuit domino Iohanni de Grey militi quod posset facere celebrari > diuina in oratorio infra mansum suum de Coges constructo dummodo > decens fuerit et honestum sibi et uxori sue ac libere familie eo per > licentiam sacerdotem propriis sumptibus exhibendum absque preiudicio > matricis ecclesie de Coges usque ad ipsius episcopi beneplacitum > uoluntatis. et hoc fecit de consensu prioris de Coges. etc.” > > (Transcription. Dr Andrew Dunning, Curator of Medieval Historical > Manuscripts, 1100–1500, The British Library) > > > > I can get the general sense but not the detail and would like to > clarify the following: > > Is the oratory definitely a private chapel within the manor house or > could it be the chapel in the parish church? > Is it yet to be built or does it already exist? > Is the mass a chantry mass? > Were licences transferable between buildings? If so, could the licence > have been granted for a private chapel in the manor house pending the > construction of the chantry chapel in the church next door? > > I apologise for asking so many questions but would be very grateful > for any help. > > Thank you very much > > Nicola Lowe > > > > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR > NAME to: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> To > send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> To leave the list, send the > message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> In order to report problems or to > contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> For further > information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion