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Yes in general terms sound and visual poetry get called avant-garde but in truth both those forms now have a lengthy tradition behind them. The term is useful but I think that most of us would agree it has no relation to its literal meaning and hasn't had for a long time.

On 30 Jan 2018, at 14:48, David Lace wrote:

You have a point there Luke. Also visual poetry could be called avantgarde. But all other poetry can't really be defined as mainstream or avantgarde. So only sound and visual poetry are really avantgarde - as reason dictates.