An extreme example is sound poetry, unless you want to say that it's too late to be avant garde.

Luke

On 30 January 2018 at 14:43, David Lace <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
The more I look into this confusion over definitions, I have to agree with Jamie to some extent — that there is no such thing as a mainstream and avantgarde. That is the logical conclusion that I have to come to. There might perhaps be a useful definition of “popular” and “not popular”, but even that opens a can of worms.