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I’ve never been able to get into Duncan’s criticism. It’s too generalised and incoherent for all the forelock tugging it gets in some quarters. ----------------original message------------- Gerard Greenway wrote: What arrant nonsense! 9. In 1967, Penguin published The Mersey Sound, with three Pop poets – Henri, McGough, Patten. It sold a million copies. This was the perfect Pop book. Teenagers read it. It was the culmination of something probably 5 to 8 years old by then. It was a forgettable book. Pop culture is immediate, cutaneous, once-only. If you think about it, or discuss it reflexively, you destroy it. Because it evaporates, it is hard for a person to fix the history of it. I think that what Evans says about it is very bad history. But also – this kind of poetry does not sustain discussion between intelligent people, and that is what we are going to do, we must do it willy-nilly.