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She's good, just didn't want to cite her. Luke On 11 December 2017 at 16:04, Edmund Hardy <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > as an image of language, a crystal suggests being shorn from time; > escaping from history. Entrapment in repetition - the repetition of faces, > views. From the opposite view, poetry works against the *permafrost *of > preserved - lexicalised - language. > > > Is your tutor thinking of Celan, or do they dream of Superman in his > ice-crystal *fortress of solitude* > > Edmund > > ------------------------------ > *From:* British & Irish poets <[log in to unmask]> on > behalf of Tim Allen <[log in to unmask]> > *Sent:* 11 December 2017 15:42 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: Crystalline structures > > I agree with your tutor Luke, whoever he/she is, that sometimes a poem can > be said to have a crystalline structure or whatever, but not always, and > such a thing certainly doesn't mean that it has to be a condition of being > the best. I'd consider some of mine to be crystalline in this way, or > approximate such a thing in the way the language refracts language etc. > (yes hoaxed might cover it) but some isn't like that at all. I think I've > always considered Prynne's stuff to be crystalline - complexity in the form > of hard luminosity etc. > > Cheers > > Tim > > On 11 Dec 2017, at 15:16, Luke wrote: > > I just mean to read, another vacuous question then. My tutor said this > today, that a good poem is > > > something which contains its beginning in its end and *vice versa.* At > its best a poem is somewhat crystalline in character, something in which > you can find pathways and developing patterning when you read a second time. > > I wondered, how does that fit with your poetic ideals, at all? Hoaxed > artlessness could cover it, too? > > >