Hi Melanie, Thanks for pointing out this snippet in the terms and conditions too - as you say, it does look like it's a very general notice, which doesn't really seem appropriate for end users - staff and students - who are not entering into a contract with Blackboard. This seems like a rather blunt instrument to get students to agree to something (whatever the motivation was for adding this). Has anyone raised this with Blackboard, through a ticket or conversation with an account manager yet? I'd be interested to know if these full (and very lengthy) terms and conditions were definitely the intention in the app (and if so, why), or if some shorter more relevant wording for staff and students would have more helpful. Best Chris From: Blackboard/Courseinfo userslist [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Melanie Barrand Sent: 06 December 2017 16:55 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Blackboard App - Terms of Use Hello Craig We're not on the right Building Block version to use the Instructor app so it's interesting to know they would see this too. I assume their terms of use have been written for their range of products. If a student or member of staff reads them there are a few worrying snippets. Amongst them: "Further, if you stop using the Products for more than 60 days, your accounts may be deleted and Blackboard assumes no responsibility for Content deleted following inactivity." "You retain your rights to any Content you submit, post, or display on or through the Products. By submitting, posting or displaying Content on or through the Products, you grant us a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license (with the right to sublicense) to use, host, store, copy, reproduce, process, adapt, modify, publish, transmit, create derivative works, communicate, display, and/or distribute such Content in any and all media or distribution methods (now known or later developed) as part of providing any of the Products." Melanie Barrand Learning Technologies Team | University of Leeds Website: www.leeds.ac.uk/vle For the latest VLE news, hints, tips & updates visit our blog: http://vleservice.wordpress.com/,follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/leedsvlesupport or subscribe to the mailing list:http://www.leeds.ac.uk/vle/maillist/ From: Blackboard/Courseinfo userslist <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Craig Wakefield <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Reply-To: Blackboard/Courseinfo userslist <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Date: Wednesday, 6 December 2017 16:40 To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Subject: Re: Blackboard App - Terms of Use Hi Chris Both Blackboard Instructor and the Blackboard (student) app have received updates and both prompt the user to agree to a Terms of Use - from what I can see both terms of use are the same. I've tested with both real staff and student accounts and that made no difference. Cheers Craig Wakefield MSc PGCE FHEA Learning Technologies Adviser University of Brighton School of Sport & Service Management, School of Health Sciences Queenwood Library, Eastbourne Tel: 01273 64 (4112) Mob: 07964431090 Twitter: @craig_wakefield Blog: https://blogs.brighton.ac.uk/elearningteam/ Have you checked out our support pages for Learning & Teaching?<https://staff.brighton.ac.uk/is/learningandteaching/Pages/home.aspx> [CSE signature logo] Craig From: Blackboard/Courseinfo userslist [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Boon Sent: 06 December 2017 15:53 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Blackboard App - Terms of Use I've just updated my Blackboard app to the latest version and I was asked to log in again, and was then presented with the new Blackboard Terms of Use: [cid:image002.jpg@01D36EB6.6C9FC6B0] You can scroll down to read it all (there's a lot of it!). As Melanie said, clicking Disagree takes you back to the logon screen. The actual terms seem surprisingly detailed for an end user - they look to me like the Ts & Cs we'd sign on behalf of our institution when we accept a Blackboard license. Scrolling down gives this type of information: [cid:image003.jpg@01D36EB6.6C9FC6B0] Text such as "You may use the Products only if you can form a binding contract with Blackboard" seems surprising for our students to see - this sounds a bit beyond compliance with GDPR. My account is a system administrator account - has anyone signed into the new app with a "real" student account yet? It would be useful to check if everyone is seeing this. Best Chris From: Blackboard/Courseinfo userslist [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Melanie Barrand Sent: 06 December 2017 15:11 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Blackboard App - Terms of Use No, if I disagree to the terms then I can't proceed. Best wishes Melanie Barrand Learning Technologies Team | University of Leeds Website: www.leeds.ac.uk/vle<http://www.leeds.ac.uk/vle> For the latest VLE news, hints, tips & updates visit our blog: http://vleservice.wordpress.com/,follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/leedsvlesupport or subscribe to the mailing list:http://www.leeds.ac.uk/vle/maillist/ From: Blackboard/Courseinfo userslist <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of "Magennis, Rachael" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Reply-To: Blackboard/Courseinfo userslist <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Date: Wednesday, 6 December 2017 14:29 To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Subject: Re: Blackboard App - Terms of Use Hi Melanie, It could be that Blackboard are prepping for GDPR? I think they will have to inform users that there data may be collected. Does it give an 'opt out' option? Many thanks, Rachael - GCU. From: Blackboard/Courseinfo userslist [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Melanie Barrand Sent: 06 December 2017 14:12 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Blackboard App - Terms of Use Hello Today I updated to the latest Blackboard App and logged on as a test user (an account I haven't used before with the app). I am seeing 'Blackboard Terms of Use' which I must agree to if I wish to use the app. Am I right in thinking this is new? I don't remember seeing these before. 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