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If “the total will come close to what we have on Psci-Com list (around 4,300)”, that means that everyone on this list has a PSCI-COM qualification, or the numbers are bonkers.
MK
From: psci-com: on public engagement with science [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mico Tatalovic
Sent: 09 November 2017 18:25
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I wonder what definition of 'scicom community' Dan originally had in mind.
My equation was meant in jest, Mike. But I think if you plug in the numbers, the total will come close to what we have on Psci-Com list (around 4,300)..
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From: psci-com: on public engagement with science <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Noel Jackson <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 5:37 PM
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Rick,
I think we are there already
Isn’t the membership of the RSPB about a million and a half?
Activities at all sort of levels lead by professionals and amateurs, then there are the wildlife trusts and all the more specialist wildlife organizations.
Incidentally, I got into teaching through growing up through and eventually running what were then called Young Ornithologist Club groups.
Noel
From: psci-com: on public engagement with science [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rick Hall
Sent: 09 November 2017 17:33
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Cheers Noel
I love replies that start 'For what it's worth..'
my own For what it's worth is that I don't have a science qualification above O'Level
Never mind the quantity, feel the width..
the debate will be worth having when the number of people proclaiming involvement, teaching and promotion of science engagement (as well as science communication) is comparable to the number of artists, community artists - across all genres
Ten years ago the Guardian reported that there were 25,000 community choirs in UK - with half a million singers - and presumably over 20,000 or so choirmasters and mistresses - who could feasibly by called Music Communicators
I'll bet the number has doubled since then - and that's only music
I'll be a happy retiree when we have half a million community biologists guided by 25,000 Biology Communicators
not to mention the other genres...
cheers
Rick
On 9 November 2017 at 17:08, Noel Jackson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
For what its worth,
When I was a teacher I always thought of myself as a Science Communicator.
I know I was not alone in this.
Persons of my age will have completed their qualifications long before formal qualificatijn in science communication were started.
Most science teachers will have a post-graduate qualification in teaching.
Noel
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Sent: 09 November 2017 11:29
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My guess is that most professional science communicators don't have a Sci-Com masters.
Just read the messages here from people who have transitioned seamlessly from a first degree or PhD straight into the business.
I find Mico’s equation baffling.
MK
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There are even some professional science communicators who did not do a Sci-Com masters ;-)
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On 9 Nov 2017, at 01:33, Mićo Tatalović <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
N (graduates from Imperial's SciCom course) x 25 + ( ∑ graduates from several other similar courses) = quite close to the actual number, I suspect
(A small number of people who were in the field before 1991 and still work in it + small number of people from outside the UK who came to work in the field + people who didn't take the courses but move into the field are probably balanced out by graduates form those courses who left the UK since)
Though I guess another good approximation would be the number of subscribers to the Psci-Com mailing list with a UK location...
ABSW, which focuses on science journalism and writing, has in the range of 450 members https://www.absw.org.uk
The Association of British Science Writers (ABSW): helping those who write about science and technology, improving the standard of science journalism in the UK and ...
Mico Tatalovic
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Ba (Oxon), MPhil (Cantab), MSc (DIC)
From: psci-com: on public engagement with science <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 9:43 PM
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Good question.
What is your idea of the UK sci-com community?
Does it include science writers and science journalists? I haven't seen reliable numbers for those, let alone the rest of the pack.
MK
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Hi all
I'm interested to know as a guide to the size of the UK sci-com community. I'm also interested in any other quick ways to guage this number. Perhaps it's been estimated in a recent report.
Thanks
Dan
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