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Any up-to-date ones? And do these align with Harvard styles used across institutions? My more broad point is that a lot of the ref styles are a bit of relic in the age of the internet, perhaps a new sort of style is needed. On 8 November 2017 at 13:14, Andy Gillett <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > We do have: > > > British Standards Institution (1989). Recommendations for references to > published materials. BS 1629. 1989. London: BSI. > > British Standards Institution (1990a). Recommendations for citing and > referencing published materials. BS 5605. 1990. London: BSI. > > British Standards Institution (1990b). Recommendations for the > presentation of theses. BS 4821. 1990.London: BSI. > > ?!? > > Andy > Sent from my iPhone > > On 8 Nov 2017, at 10:54, Stephen Gow <0000176f2652a23e-dmarc- > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Oh Harvard! I too have this problem and to be honest, I think we should > come up with an official British Referencing style for the modern age > instead of using something which has no official style! > > *The best guide for Harvard: *Colin Neville's (2016) *The Complete Guide > to Referencing and Avoiding Plagiarism * is probably the closest thing to > a Harvard Guide. The section *Hurrah for Harvard * describes the reasons > for the inconsistencies with Harvard but also it's strengths, mainly the > flexibility. It also provides a lot of examples, the problem being that > they don't match our Harvard style. However it is very useful and a great > resource, I highly recommend it. > > *Flexibility of Harvard: *In the past Harvard's flexibility was an > advantage but in the age of ref management software, this makes it > difficult to have one definitive style, meaning there are many different > Harvard Style's. > > *APA: *Harvard isn't actually used at Harvard, in the US the APA style is > actually the referencing style which has evolved from the same library > cataloguing as Harvard Style. As a result, it is very similar and some of > our departments have started to use it as it produces a definitive style > guide every few years. There are also great resources available at > http://blog.apastyle.org/ and https://owl.english. > purdue.edu/owl/resource/560/01/. > > *Referencing and **Formatting** Guides: *One problem with APA, as with > Chicago, is that they are complete formatting guides meaning that the style > guides they produce cover a lot more than referencing which students at > British institutions don't need. > > *Isn't it time we had a British referencing style?: *I think we could > actually come up a referencing style which would bring referencing into the > 21st century and replace a lot of the outdated info which is of the > pre-internet era. This would be better for students and staff, as they > could then concentrate on the content rather than getting distracted by the > minutiae of formatting. I think a team of librarians, academics and > learning technologists could come up with a system... > > Regards, > > Stephen > > On 8 November 2017 at 10:26, Ping-Nan Chang <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Hi, Kate, >> >> >> >> My institute does not subscribe to RefWorks or other paid software. >> Therefore, I sometimes recommend Zotero to my students. I think students >> can be informed about some common reference management tools (charged or >> free) that they may apply to suit their preferences. From logistic points >> of view, I think that the training should however focus on the software >> subscribed by individual institution. In addition, when it comes to >> generating a list of references, Microsoft Word may do the trick (for a >> limited number of referencing styles though). >> >> >> >> Actually, I am more concerned about what the so-called Harvard style is. >> Is there an official manual of it? Since my own postgraduate studies, I >> have been confused by the lack of consistency in examples and lack of >> details in instruction from the research handbook that I received from my >> university. I also observed the issues on style guideline websites by >> several British universities. To illustrate, despite its comprehensiveness, UCL >> IoE Writing Centre’s A-Z guide >> <http://libguides.ioe.ac.uk/c.php?g=482478&p=3298718> on Harvard include >> examples which are not consistent in many ways. For instance, what’s the >> rules about specifying the country of a publication in the ‘Harvard’ style? >> I have seen variations in IoE’s examples: no mention of the country, UK and >> England for something published in England. This issue seems trivial, but >> could still confuse students. It ended up that I could only advise my >> students to be consistent. Can anyone recommend a Harvard style guide which >> is comprehensive and strictly consistent? 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