Following a ref to Kenny G on this thread & fwiw here's a URL to a small entertainment on subjects VP, KG & contraceptualism amongst other things...

http://dispatchespoetrywars.com/poetry/2017/08/jazz-mysterious-cases-mistaken-identity-peter-smith/

which it appears I wrote under the pseudonym Peter Smith

Cheers

Pete

On Nov 18, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Thanks for the link. The question about narcissistic lyric poetry was the most interesting for me. Where does one draw the line, at what point is a lyric just "dull"? I think that's key, not the "quivering lip and air of self harm". Interesting that Place calls the lyric poet "dull" and it#s poetry that has the "quivering lip", I would have thought vice versa? 

I liked her phrase "no longer the default mode of representation". If conceptual poetry wins out, becomes entirely hegemonic, then it probably should have, however regrettable that is.

All the best,

Luke

On 18 November 2017 at 18:05, Jeffrey Side <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Some of you might find this feature criticising conceptual poetry interesting.

'A Critique of Conceptual Poetry':

http://www.argotistonline.co.uk/A%20Critique%20of%20Conceptual%20Poetry.htm

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