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Hi - interesting, Erinma Bodmer, yes, of course. I would put forward the GM debate as a key point at which we (working at the practical end of scicomm) realised that we needed to raise our game. I certainly did. Best Annette Annette Smith T: 0208 355 2968 M: 07771 994 780 Tw: @annettesciedgov E: [log in to unmask] On 4 October 2017 at 10:23, Rick Hall <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi Erinma > great topic > Mine is too long for a tweet alas - even with the new character length > I'm fascinated by the period between 1800 and 1835 when there was the > culture shift and the opening up of the great schism > > So here is the chronology of these key moments.. > in 1800 the poet Samuel Taylor Coleridge and Humphry Davy were merrily > inhaling nitrous oxide together... Davy was writing as much poetry as his > friend, and there was a spirit of revolution and optimism in the air.. > France standing at the top of golden hours and human nature seeming born > again - Wordsworth > Coleridge and Wordsworth had asked Davy to proof read the preface of the > Lyrical Ballads (1798) > > In 1801, Coleridge attended the lecture by Davy at the RI into galvanism > > there appeared to be a mutual respect for natural philosophy.. the arts of > poetry and science seemed bound by the spirit of discovery both in the > laboratory and in the new freer forms of literature > but over the course of the early 1800s their friendship cooled and they > fell out.. > > A personal story I accept - but there were other shifts of perspective > that indicated the beginnings of a bigger seismic movement > Wordsworth had already declared his pantheistic creed - one impulse from > the vernal wood.. etc in the Lyrical Ballads > > The younger Romantic poets like Keats and Shelley were less enamoured by > the influence of scientific discovery.. > by 1820, the poets were critical of the kind of rational thinking that > science experiments required.. > so, famously, and as quoted by Dawkins, Keats wrote in Lamia, 1820: > Philosophy will clip an Angel's wings.. > > And by 1829 Edgar Allan Poe was even more forcefully declamatory in his > sonnet speaking directly 'To Science' > 'Why preyest thou thus upon the poet's heart > Vulture, whose wings are dull realities?' > > At the same time, and almost in retaliation (?) the natural philosophers, > the cultivators of science, took up the term 'Scientist' for the first time > - in an opposition as stark as astronomical bodies.. > (1834)... > > And from that time onwards... > > cheers and all the best > > Rick > > On 4 October 2017 at 09:06, Erinma <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> We're asking and discussing with our #scicomm masters students this week >> what key moments in the history, politics and future of #scicomm might be... >> >> We had the Bodmer report from Sam Illingworth - what would yours be...? >> >> Feel free to tweet your moment @scicomsalford my key #scicommhistory >> moment is... (and the year) plus a weblink if there is one. >> >> We'd would love to hear from diverse and unusual perspectives - thinking >> from the public and scientific perspective or somewhere in between... >> >> We'll share the timeline back... and hopefully start a debate about it... >> >> All best, >> >> Erinma >> >> m: 07871 030515 >> http://about.me/erinmaochu >> @erinmaochu >> >> > On 4 Oct 2017, at 00:00, PSCI-COM automatic digest system < >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> > >> >> ********************************************************************** >> >> psci-com how-to: >> Once subscribed, send emails for the list to [log in to unmask] If >> not subscribed, either subscribe here https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi >> -bin/webadmin?A0=psci-com or send requests for items to be posted on >> your behalf to [log in to unmask] >> >> To unsubscribe (or silence messages while away) send an email (any >> subject) to [log in to unmask] with one of the following messages >> (ignoring text in brackets) >> >> • signoff psci-com (to leave the list) >> • set psci-com nomail (to stop receiving messages while on holiday) >> • set psci-com mail (to resume getting messages) >> >> Contact list owner at [log in to unmask] >> Small print and JISCMail acceptable use policy >> https://sites.google.com/site/pscicomjiscmail/the-small-print >> >> ********************************************************************** >> > > > > -- > Rick Hall FRSA > Founder and Associate, Ignite! > Winston Churchill Fellow 2016 > > 0780 103 4732 > > > > *www.ignitefutures.org.uk <http://www.ignitefutures.org.uk>* > *PLEASE NOTE WE HAVE MOVED! * > If you write to us, or fancy a visit, our new office address is: > > > *Cobden Place, Cobden Chambers, Pelham Street* > *Nottingham NG1 2ED* > > Skype - rick.hall1 > Twitter - @Rick_Hall > and - @ignitefutures > > > www.ignitefutures.org.uk > www.ignitefutures.org.uk/ignition > www.artscienceprize.org/uk > http://lab13network.wordpress.com > http://ignitionpopupshop.wordpress.com > > > > ********************************************************************** > > psci-com how-to: Once subscribed, send emails for the list to > [log in to unmask] If not subscribed, either subscribe here > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=psci-com or send requests > for items to be posted on your behalf to [log in to unmask] > > To unsubscribe (or silence messages while away) send an email (any > subject) to [log in to unmask] with one of the following messages > (ignoring text in brackets) > > • signoff psci-com (to leave the list) • set psci-com nomail (to stop > receiving messages while on holiday) • set psci-com mail (to resume getting > messages) > > Contact list owner at [log in to unmask] Small print and > JISCMail acceptable use policy https://sites.google.com/site/ > pscicomjiscmail/the-small-print > > ********************************************************************** > ********************************************************************** psci-com how-to: Once subscribed, send emails for the list to [log in to unmask] If not subscribed, either subscribe here https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=psci-com or send requests for items to be posted on your behalf to [log in to unmask] To unsubscribe (or silence messages while away) send an email (any subject) to [log in to unmask] with one of the following messages (ignoring text in brackets) • signoff psci-com (to leave the list) • set psci-com nomail (to stop receiving messages while on holiday) • set psci-com mail (to resume getting messages) Contact list owner at [log in to unmask] Small print and JISCMail acceptable use policy https://sites.google.com/site/pscicomjiscmail/the-small-print **********************************************************************