 |
 |
Many thanks Crispin. R From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Crispin Flower Sent: 27 October 2017 09:12 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology Hi Robin It stands (provisionally) for “Community Heritage Investigative Research Platform” and it is a technical solution aiming to solve the issues raised in the work by Aisling Nash and others on the value and needs of community heritage, plus the long history of problematic/insufficient engagement with academic research. Feel free to forward, though this really is just ideas at this stage! Crispin From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<mailto:[mailto:[log in to unmask]]> On Behalf Of Page, Robin Sent: 27 October 2017 08:57 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology Hi thanks Crispin- as that an ancronym or just a catchy title? Might I post this to the LinkedIn discussion this morning as a late contribution? One of the questions covers new tools that may aid synthesis. Robin Robin Page Digital Coordinator Investigation and Analysis Department Direct Dial: 01793 414617 Historic England | The Engine House | Fire Fly Avenue |Swindon |SN2 2EH https://historicengland.org.uk/research/ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Crispin Flower Sent: 27 October 2017 08:51 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology Hi all A small apology on behalf of my colleague Dr Emily Pennifold, a member of the historic environment team here at exegesis. She’s hiding under the duvet today with embarrassment about her accidental “tweet” to the list. But she’s not completely bonkers; “CHIRP” is our working name for an idea we are currently developing and discussing with partners - an online platform for community/academic historic environment research that automatically integrates the research efforts with HERs. Watch this space! Crispin From: Emily Pennifold Sent: 26 October 2017 17:30 To: Issues related to Historic Environment Records <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Cc: ESDM_HBSMR <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Subject: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology CHIRP?!? From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nina Steele Sent: 26 October 2017 17:19 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology Hi all, In Wales there has recently been a discussion about the need for HERs and other record-holding institutions (e.g. RCAHMW, Cadw, National Museum) to engage with universities in order to develop closer relationships with them. We are keen to highlight the relevance of HERs and other records to research programmes, to emphasise the utility of developing research datasets in liaison with HER staff, and are aware of the need to promote responsible archiving of the outcomes of research projects. We have high hopes that the issues noted below will be addressed in time. Thanks, Nina -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nina Steele Uwch Archaeolegydd Cofnod yr Amgylchedd Hanesyddol - Senior Historic Environment Record Archaeologist Gwynedd Archaeological Trust Craig Beuno Ffordd y Garth Bangor Gwynedd LL57 2RT 01248 366964 (ffon/phone) 01248 370925 (ffacs/fax) website: www.heneb.co.uk<http://www.heneb.co.uk/> email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> www.archwilio.org.uk<http://www.archwilio.org.uk/> My normal working days are Monday to Thursday From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Margie Hoffnung Sent: 26 October 2017 16:51 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology Hi all, I am the Conservation Officer for the Gardens Trust. I do use HERs reasonably regularly when I have planning queries. We are statutory consultees for applications which might affect gardens which are on HE's Register of Historic Parks and Gardens. It's mostly when the applicant has done a particularly shoddy Heritage Statement (or not done one!). I frequently need a bit of extra info for my response, and the HERs I have consulted have always been fantastic. Quite a few HER officers are also members of their local County Gardens Trust and as such are totally invaluable when it comes to research for things in their patch. Best wishes Margie Hoffnung On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:38:16 +0100, alex.godden <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Hi all, Speaking as someone who has worn both a curatorial and HER hat in the past, it was constant bug bear that not only did academic institutions continually fail to use or even consider HERs as a source of information, but also not share results of academic projects with HERs. Obviously it was not always appropriate, and some academics were much better than others, but there is a definite gap in mindsets there. Best Alex Alex Godden Senior Archaeological Consultant WYG The Pavilion, 1st Floor, Botleigh Grange Office Campus, Hedge End, Southampton, Hampshire, SO30 2AF Tel: +44 2382 022 873 Mob: +44 7884 734 390 www.wyg.com<http://www.wyg.com> WYG Environment Planning Transport Limited. Registered in England number: 3050297. Registered Office: Arndale Court, Otley Road, Headingley, Leeds, West Yorkshire LS6 2UJ VAT No: 431-0326-08. [ACE Award]<http://www.wyg.com/news-and-press-releases/wyg-scoops-three-major-awards-at-ace-consultancy-and-engineering-awards->[Follow us on Twitter]<https://twitter.com/wyggroup>[Follow us on LinkedIn]<http://www.linkedin.com/company/wyg-group>[Follow us on Facebook]<https://www.facebook.com/WYG-216194275241716>[Follow us on Instagram]<https://www.instagram.com/wyggroup/> From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Roderick Millard Sent: 26 October 2017 15:32 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology I had an enquiry this week from a student who had come across one of our building records on the Heritage Gateway and wanted to use it for a case study (it’s in Council Ownership, so I was able to not only send her our records but also arrange for someone from Property Services to let her in for a site visit) I deal with postgraduate researchers quite often (possibly more so than other HERs, being Bath) but it tends to be students rather than career academics who come to us for information – I’m not sure if that’s a generational thing where the students look for digital data first, or a more sinister issue of academic attitudes to our data. Rod Millard Historic Environment Record Officer Planning and Transport Development Bath and North East Somerset Council Lewis House Manvers Street Bath BA1 1JG Tel: 01225 477653 Fax: 01225 477663 Email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Web: http://www.bathnes.gov.uk/services/tourism-and-heritage/archaeology Office Hours: Tuesday to Thursday, 10:00 am – 4:30 pm Making Bath & North East Somerset an even better place to live, work and visit. From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Page, Robin Sent: 26 October 2017 15:16 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology Many thanks Peter- might I post this back over at the LinkedIn discussion? From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of lancashire.archaeology Sent: 26 October 2017 15:05 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology It depends upon who and what, but the answer is a worrying low level of awareness, if enquiries to the Lancashire HER are anything to go by. One (local) unoversity has accessed records relating to current researchprojects, and that isaboutit. Of course it is impossible for me to know how many people trawl OASIS on a regular basis ... Pete Iles, Lancashire Sent from Samsung tablet. -------- Original message -------- From: "Page, Robin" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Date: 26/10/2017 14:50 (GMT+00:00) To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology Dear all We’re having an interesting discussion over on LinkedIn. Jan Wills of CIfA has just asked and apart from well known national examples such as the Roman Rural Settlement how much do local govt colleagues think the potential of HER data from the last 25 yrs + of investigation is now appreciated by academic colleagues as a research resource? What are your views on that? Best wishes Robin From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Page, Robin Sent: 25 October 2017 10:41 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology We’ve started the discussion over at the Historic England LinkedIn group. HERs have already been mentioned in the context of providing data to support synthesis- and the challenges of keeping this data up to date with limited resources. Please do come and join us if you are able- or I can post on your behalf if you can’t access LinkedIn. Robin From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<mailto:[mailto:[log in to unmask]]> On Behalf Of Page, Robin Sent: 23 October 2017 13:30 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology The background briefing paper for this discussion is available from the CIfA website: https://www.archaeologists.net/sites/default/files/21st-century%20Challenges%20Workshop%205%20programme%20%20.pdf Look forward to your thoughts over at the Historic England LinkedIn group later this week on Wednesday 25th and Thursday 26th, if you are able to join us. Best wishes Robin From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<mailto:[mailto:[log in to unmask]]> On Behalf Of Page, Robin Sent: 12 October 2017 11:59 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology Further to my email about this online discussion, below are the questions we’d like to address 1. What questions are we asking of the data? How is this moderated in the planning process? 2. In current excavations, are we collecting the right data to enable the full range of these questions to be answered? 3. How are we assembling the data to ensure that we are comparing like with like? 4. How are we organising the primary data to allow the greatest access for those wishing to synthesise it? 5.How are we ensuring the distinction between data and interpretation is clear for others using the information? 6. Are there scales of synthesis? If so, are there obvious candidates for funding and undertaking these different scales? 7. Should developers pay for synthesis? Is there room for an escrow model, where a percentage of the funding for every dig goes into a common fund? Should it be left to chance and circumstance, or does it need a formal programme? 8. How do we ensure synthesis informs subsequent investigations? What might this mean for backlogs? 9. What new technological approaches might assist synthesis? 10. How would we know things have changed for the better? Thanks Robin Robin Page Digital Coordinator Investigation and Analysis Department Direct Dial: 01793 414617 Historic England | The Engine House | Fire Fly Avenue |Swindon |SN2 2EH https://historicengland.org.uk/research/ [Description: Image removed by sender. Historic England Logo]<http://www.historicengland.org.uk/> We help people understand, enjoy and value the historic environment, and protect it for the future. Historic England<http://bit.ly/1OuxROd> is a public body, and we champion everyone’s heritage, across England. Follow us: Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/HistoricEngland> | Twitter<https://twitter.com/HistoricEngland> | Instagram<https://www.instagram.com/historicengland/> Sign up to our newsletter<http://bit.ly/1p49z1e> Help us create a list of the 100 places which tell England's remarkable story and its impact on the world. A History of England in 100 Places<https://historicengland.org.uk/100places> sponsored by Ecclesiastical<%20http:/www.ecclesiastical.com/fororganisations/insurance/heritageinsurance/100-places/index.aspx>. This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of Historic England unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system and notify the sender immediately. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it. Any information sent to Historic England may become publicly available. From: Page, Robin Sent: 10 October 2017 14:59 To: Issues related to Historic Environment Records ([log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>) Subject: Forcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology *With apologies for cross posting* Dear HER Forum members, you may be interested in this forthcoming online discussion: The next online discussion in the 21st-Century Challenges for Archaeology series will take place on 25th-26th October 2017 through the Historic England LinkedIn Group. Discussion will focus on how we transform recorded data from archaeological investigations into wider knowledge and new narratives. You can find out about the background to the project from the Historic England website: https://historicengland.org.uk/whats-new/research/21st-century-challenges-archaeology/ Further information about the online discussion, including background briefing papers, will be available through the CIfA website soon: http://www.archaeologists.net/news You can catch up on the four online discussions and workshops that have taken place so far at: http://www.archaeologists.net/21st-century-challenges-archaeology Comments on the recommendations from each workshop are invited. Please send to them to Jan Wills ([log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>). To join in the next online discussion directly you will need to be a member of the Historic England LinkedIn Group. Sign up in advance by following the links on the CIFA project web page above. If you are not on LinkedIn, you can also email me your succinct thoughts and I can post to the discussion. Kind regards Robin Robin Page Digital Coordinator Investigation and Analysis Department Direct Dial: 01793 414617 Historic England | The Engine House | Fire Fly Avenue |Swindon |SN2 2EH https://historicengland.org.uk/research/ ********************************************************************************* The contents of this email message, and any attachments, are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The message does not necessarily express the views of Bath & North East Somerset Council and should be considered personal unless there is a specific statement to the contrary. If you have received this email in error you may not take any action based on it, nor should you copy or show this to anyone; please reply to it and highlight the error to the sender, then delete the message from your system. The provision of links to Web sites which are not part of the Bath & North East Somerset Council domain are provided for convenient information sharing purposes. The Council is not responsible for the reliability of these links, or the information provided, and it is not intended to imply endorsement of the site. Subscribe to Inform - the free weekly e-newsletter from Bath & North East Somerset Council Click http://www.bathnes.gov.uk/inform3 Making Bath & North East Somerset – the place to live, work and visit. ********************************************************************************** ________________________________ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the recipient. If you are not the recipient you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. ________________________________ -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/