Hi thanks Crispin- as that an ancronym or just a catchy title? Might I post this to the LinkedIn discussion this morning as a late contribution? One of the questions covers new tools that may aid synthesis.

Robin

 

 

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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Crispin Flower
Sent: 27 October 2017 08:51
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology

 

Hi all

A small apology on behalf of my colleague Dr Emily Pennifold, a member of the historic environment team here at exegesis. She’s hiding under the duvet today with embarrassment about her accidental “tweet” to the list. But she’s not completely bonkers; “CHIRP” is our working name for an idea we are currently developing and discussing with partners - an online platform for community/academic historic environment research that automatically integrates the research efforts with HERs. Watch this space!

Crispin

 

From: Emily Pennifold
Sent: 26 October 2017 17:30
To: Issues related to Historic Environment Records <[log in to unmask]>
Cc: ESDM_HBSMR <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology

 

CHIRP?!?

 

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nina Steele
Sent: 26 October 2017 17:19
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology

 

Hi all,

 

In Wales there has recently been a discussion about the need for HERs and other record-holding institutions (e.g. RCAHMW, Cadw, National Museum) to engage with universities in order to develop closer relationships with them.  We are keen to highlight the relevance of HERs and other records to research programmes, to emphasise the utility of developing research datasets in liaison with HER staff, and are aware of the need to promote responsible archiving of the outcomes of research projects.  We have high hopes that the issues noted below will be addressed in time.

 

Thanks,

 

Nina

 

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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Margie Hoffnung
Sent: 26 October 2017 16:51
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology

 

Hi all,

 

I am the Conservation Officer for the Gardens Trust.  I do use HERs reasonably regularly when I have planning queries.  We are statutory consultees for applications which might affect gardens which are on HE's Register of Historic Parks and Gardens.  It's mostly when the applicant has done a particularly shoddy Heritage Statement (or not done one!).  I frequently need a bit of extra info for my response, and the HERs I have consulted have always been fantastic.  Quite a few HER officers are also members of their local County Gardens Trust and as such are totally invaluable when it comes to research for things in their patch.

 

Best wishes

Margie Hoffnung

 

 

On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:38:16 +0100, alex.godden <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

Speaking as someone who has worn both a curatorial and HER hat in the past, it was constant bug bear that not only did academic institutions continually fail to use or even consider HERs as a source of information, but also not share results of academic projects with HERs. Obviously it was not always appropriate, and some academics were much better than others, but there is a definite gap in mindsets there.

 

Best

 

Alex

 

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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Roderick Millard
Sent: 26 October 2017 15:32
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Subject: Re: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology

 

I had an enquiry this week from a student who had come across one of our building records on the Heritage Gateway and wanted to use it for a case study (it’s in Council Ownership, so I was able to not only send her our records but also arrange for someone from Property Services to let her in for a site visit)

 

I deal with postgraduate researchers quite often (possibly more so than other HERs, being Bath) but it tends to be students rather than career academics who come to us for information – I’m not sure if that’s a generational thing where the students look for digital data first, or a more sinister issue of academic attitudes to our data.

 

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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Page, Robin
Sent: 26 October 2017 15:16
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology

 

Many thanks Peter- might I post this back over at the LinkedIn discussion?

 

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of lancashire.archaeology
Sent: 26 October 2017 15:05
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology

 

It depends upon who and what, but the answer is a worrying low level of awareness, if enquiries to the Lancashire HER are anything to go by.  One (local) unoversity has accessed records relating to current researchprojects, and that isaboutit.  Of course it is impossible for me to know how many people trawl OASIS on a regular basis ...

 

Pete Iles, Lancashire

 

 

Sent from Samsung tablet.

 

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From: "Page, Robin" <[log in to unmask]>

Date: 26/10/2017 14:50 (GMT+00:00)

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology

 

Dear all

We’re having an interesting discussion over on LinkedIn. Jan Wills of CIfA has just asked and apart from well known national examples such as the Roman Rural Settlement how much do local govt colleagues think the potential of HER data from the last 25 yrs + of investigation is now appreciated by academic colleagues as a research resource?

 

What are your views on that?

Best wishes

Robin

 

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Page, Robin
Sent: 25 October 2017 10:41
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology

 

We’ve started the discussion over at the Historic England LinkedIn group. HERs have already been mentioned in the context of providing data to support synthesis- and the challenges of keeping this data up to date with limited resources. Please do come and join us if you are able- or I can post on your behalf if you can’t access LinkedIn.

Robin

 

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Page, Robin
Sent: 23 October 2017 13:30
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology

 

The background briefing paper for this discussion is available from the CIfA website: https://www.archaeologists.net/sites/default/files/21st-century%20Challenges%20Workshop%205%20programme%20%20.pdf

Look forward to your thoughts over at the Historic England LinkedIn group later this week on Wednesday 25th and Thursday 26th, if you are able to join us.

Best wishes

Robin

 

 

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Page, Robin
Sent: 12 October 2017 11:59
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: FW: Forthcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology

 

Further to my email about this online discussion, below are the questions we’d like to address

 

1. What questions are we asking of the data? How is this moderated in the planning process?

2. In current excavations, are we collecting the right data to enable the full range of these

questions to be answered?

3. How are we assembling the data to ensure that we are comparing like with like?

4. How are we organising the primary data to allow the greatest access for those wishing to

synthesise it?

5.How are we ensuring the distinction between data and interpretation is clear for others

using the information?

6. Are there scales of synthesis? If so, are there obvious candidates for funding and

undertaking these different scales?

7. Should developers pay for synthesis? Is there room for an escrow model, where a

percentage of the funding for every dig goes into a common fund? Should it be left to chance

and circumstance, or does it need a formal programme?

8. How do we ensure synthesis informs subsequent investigations? What might this mean for

backlogs?

9. What new technological approaches might assist synthesis?

10. How would we know things have changed for the better?

 

Thanks Robin

 

Robin Page

Digital Coordinator

Investigation and Analysis Department

Direct Dial: 01793 414617

Historic England | The Engine House | Fire Fly Avenue |Swindon |SN2 2EH

 

https://historicengland.org.uk/research/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From: Page, Robin
Sent: 10 October 2017 14:59
To: Issues related to Historic Environment Records ([log in to unmask])
Subject: Forcoming online discussion about synthesis of results from development-led archaeology

 

*With apologies for cross posting*

 

Dear HER Forum members, you may be interested in this forthcoming online discussion:

 

The next online discussion in the 21st-Century Challenges for Archaeology series will take place on 25th-26th October 2017 through the Historic England LinkedIn Group. Discussion will focus on how we transform recorded data from archaeological investigations into wider knowledge and new narratives.

 

You can find out about the background to the project from the Historic England website:

https://historicengland.org.uk/whats-new/research/21st-century-challenges-archaeology/

 

Further information about the online discussion, including background briefing papers, will be available through the CIfA website soon: http://www.archaeologists.net/news

 

You can catch up on the four online discussions and workshops that have taken place so far at: http://www.archaeologists.net/21st-century-challenges-archaeology

 

Comments on the recommendations from each workshop are invited. Please send to them to Jan Wills ([log in to unmask]).

 

To join in the next online discussion directly you will need to be a member of the Historic England LinkedIn Group. Sign up in advance by following the links on the CIFA project web page above. If you are not on LinkedIn, you can also email me  your succinct thoughts and I can post to the discussion.

 

Kind regards

Robin

 

Robin Page

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