Hi,

The resume was lots trickier to write into something coherent than I was expecting. I think the whole essay is just too unfocused, which is a shame, though I'll post this now anyway, seeing as I started this thread:

My aim is to quote based on theory and not novelty. I begin by claiming that, due to anxiety, I write poems which could be read as ambiguous New Critical wholes, but only as speech. I show how this means that as speech they can resolve into a single moment with a shifting meaning. I then add that this can be written as two layers of narrative, meaning that in my poems quotation can appear both as reified speech and not. Quotation then is superficially worked into the reified present moment, and so novel, while at the same time antagonistic with that.

Thanks for the replies,

Luke

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Tim Allen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Right this is you Luke not jamie.

I don't think you can separate present 'expectations and standards' from past ones. Where would the dividing line be? So not sure if that is what you actually mean, in which case I agree, or do you mean that the two are separate therefore either could be used? In that case depending on what?

Expectations (still think that is the wrong word) and standards change through time, of course, but the changes can be abrupt and radical or gradual and conservative, and anything in-between. The important thing is that there is always a relationship, always a dynamic. But we don't 'choose' our expectations (which relates to what I said in my other post), so we cannot pick one over the other. I cannot suddenly choose to 'judge' a poem by the expectations and standards of the New Criticism or whatever - though it might make an interesting exercise.

Cheers

Tim

On 11 Aug 2017, at 15:24, Luke wrote:

but was more trying to suggest that "expectations and standards" need not be that of the present, contemporary etc..