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Thanks – I think we’ll also go down that route – it was the fact that as some staff do have 300+ modules, if they could just browse without having to be enrolled, then they’d not even have to self enrol, but they would be able to see content. However, we’ve also found that it’s just not working to make the browseability that admins have actually work …

 

Will your instructions for staff about how to self enrol / remove themselves be available on your website publicly?

 

Emma

 

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Emma Duke-Williams

Educational Technologist

CTIL

Library & Learning Centre

University of Dundee

Tel: +44(0)1382 384984

Twitter: @emmadw

 

From: Blackboard/Courseinfo userslist [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joseph Gliddon
Sent: 22 August 2017 2:44 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: "System Admin Lite" role:

 

Funnily enough I am just this afternoon looking at our process because we are planning on rolling out this functionality more widely (to Programme directors etc).

The Course Administrator I described will only see guest accessible content (but would be able to edit it).

I would again strongly recommend the "QuickEnrol" option as this gives full instructor access and only takes a click.  Any other solution will require lots of work on your part and will still be a sub-optimal method.  This is because to do something in a course you need a course role, trying to provide the same via a system role just struggles (even full system admin is not enough to get the full instructor access level). 

 

We recommend

We find that staff in the second category tend to end up with about a dozen courses they are constantly attached to and another couple of dozen that the regularly add and remove.

 

We send out instructions on how to add/remove yourself from a course to anyone who asks for these rights, we haven't (yet) had a problem with someone forgetting how to do it.

 

It is loads better than when we used to have some staff with 200 courses in their "My Courses" list

Regards

Joseph

From: Blackboard/Courseinfo userslist <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Emma Duke-Williams (Staff) <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 22 August 2017 12:48:12
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: "System Admin Lite" role:

 

Hi Joseph

We’re still struggling with this – we can get the version you’ve suggested as allowing people to quick enrol if they need full access, however, we currently have the situation where many courses have multiple instructors on them, so the Course Administrator role you’ve got would be better for us, as it’ll be not too different from those they have at present.

 

The trouble is, we keep getting a permissions error – and it says they can’t see anything; unless Guest mode is enabled, in which case, they can see whatever a guest would see – which isn’t everything!

 

Emma

 

 

 

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Emma Duke-Williams

Educational Technologist

CTIL

Library & Learning Centre

University of Dundee

Tel: +44(0)1382 384984

Twitter: @emmadw

 

From: Blackboard/Courseinfo userslist [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joseph Gliddon
Sent: 25 July 2017 1:17 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: "System Admin Lite" role:

 

Your best bet is to use the course administrator role (or a copy of)

and add this permission "Course/Organisation (Menu) > Edit"

Then add the permissions that start with "Course/Organisation (Content Areas) ..."  for what you wish them to be able to do -  create, edit, delete etc  

 

I would still recommend the "QuickEnrol" option as this gives full instructor access and only takes a click.

From: Blackboard/Courseinfo userslist <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Cheseldine, David <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 25 July 2017 10:11:45
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: "System Admin Lite" role:

 

Hi

I’m not sure if you created this new system role as a blank role or as a Copy from an existing role; in theory it shouldn’t matter where you start from but in practice it seems to, as highlighted in this Post by Kevin Lowey:

 

https://community.blackboard.com/ideas/1126#comment-5001

 

so it may be worth trying a set up  from a blank role if this isn’t what you tried already.

 

David

 

 

From: Blackboard/Courseinfo userslist [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Knight
Sent: 24 July 2017 22:04
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: "System Admin Lite" role:

 

Hi everyone

 

I'm trying to get this working for our LTOs and I'm a bit stuck.

 

I've got the courses in nodes and assigned our LTOs to their respective nodes and I've created a new system role.

 

So far so good, the LTOs can see the courses in their node (and only those) and they can enter the course, but they get errors and no content is displayed.  They can use the quick enrol from the control panel to see what's going on but I'd like them to be able to pop into a course and instantly see the content like the sys admin.

 

I've gone through every priv I can see in the list and checked that the right ones are enabled.  I've even sat down with a couple of BB developers here at BbWorld and collectively we've failed.

 

If anyone has this working, could I beg a list of privs that you had enabled please?

 

Jon

 

On 24 July 2017 at 09:01, Joseph Gliddon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Dear All

We set 3 roles for Hierarchy admin the first "QuickEnrol" sounds like what you are looking for.

 

QuickEnrol - removed all permissions apart from those needed to search courses and quick enrol - effectively granting instructor access to all courses in their node (see attached quickenrol for list)

EnrolStaff - for those admin staff that would be adding other staff (see attached enrolStaff for list)

Then we used the out of the box "course administrator" for the highest level heirarchy admin (can do most things to courses in their node).

 

One gotcha - as staff are not assigned to nodes we had to give a system wide role of user admin to allow enrolstaff and course administrator to enrol other staff onto courses.  You might want to trim a few permissions away from user admin (like changing passwords etc).

 

Hope this helps

Regards

Joseph

 

From: Blackboard/Courseinfo userslist <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Kristen McCartney-Bulmer <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 24 July 2017 12:57:46
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: "System Admin Lite" role:

 

Hi Emma,

 

Thanks for asking this question – I have the same one.

 

Kristen

 

From: Blackboard/Courseinfo userslist [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Emma Duke-Williams (Staff)
Sent: 24 July 2017 11:06
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: "System Admin Lite" role:

 

Hi all

We’re looking at a sys admin lite role, that I know several people mentioned  at the Durham conference that they’re using in conjunction with the Institutional hierarchy, to enable admins / L&T co-ordinators etc., to see all the courses (modules) they’re responsible for, without having to enrol them on the lot …

 

It’s setting the default permissions for that role we’re currently looking at – how have those of you who’ve achieved it done it??

 

Emma

 

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