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I rarely speak in this forum, but now I think it is time for a cross-cultural comment. The humour, wit and general attitude of learned British people are often moving close to the border of what a conflict-avoiding Scandinavian would consider snarky and even arrogant. I’m trying to get used to it, but to be honest it’s a bit intimidating – especially as we cannot handle the language as skilfully as native speakers. Like standing too close of the sideline of a rugby field where 95 kg players are clashing and rolling in the mud. I’m not trying to offend anyone here. See it just as a reflection over the manners of different people. Olle B. > 5 juni 2017 kl. 21:18 skrev Tim Reynolds <[log in to unmask]>: > > Oh dear. I for one value the snark on PSCI-COMM. > > It can be amusing, but more often it also has a real point to highlight. > > If people have a problem with ‘snark’ then I really don’t understand why they thought entering the comms kitchen was a good idea in the first place... > > Best, > > Tim ‘Brussels snarkadrome’ Reynolds > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 > > From: Francis Sedgemore <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Sent: 05 June 2017 17:21 > To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] Comms & Engagement Lead post at new health institute in Cambridge > > It would seem that I have offended the list owner and other members, and have been instructed off-list by the owner to “ease up on the snark, thanks”. <> > Given that I never engage in personal abuse, and do my utmost to respond to contributions in the spirit in which they were intended, I reject the admonishment. In order to avoid any further unrest, I shall unsubscribe from the list. > > If so inclined and time permits, I may set up an independent discussion forum with rules that go no further than to outlaw abuse. What I am most keen to do is stimulate discussion about the ethics of science journalism and PR, and the distinction/conflicts between them. Those interested are welcome to contact me viawww.sedgemore.com <http://www.sedgemore.com/>. > > Francis > > -- > Dr Francis Sedgemore > journalist, writer and recovering physicist > telephone: +44 7840 191336 > website: sedgemore.com <http://sedgemore.com/> > twitter: @hesgen <http://twitter.com/hesgen> > > From: psci-com: on public engagement with science [mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Michael Kenward > Sent: Monday 5 June 2017 14:17 > To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] Comms & Engagement Lead post at new health institute in Cambridge > > For a job ad to be of any value, it needs to explain what it is about, without forcing people to wander off into webland. > > It is also a bit rich when something incomprehensible turns up on a list dedicated to “communication”. > > MK > > > > > From: psci-com: on public engagement with science [mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Theo Wilson > Sent: 05 June 2017 08:19 > To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] Comms & Engagement Lead post at new health institute in Cambridge > > Maybe we should keep the pointless criticism to a minimum guys? Some of us value job postings on these forums, let's not discourage it by bombarding people with weak pedantry! > > On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Francis Sedgemore <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > It's an institute that looks into how to improve stuff. Bleedin' obvious, innit. > > Capitalisation is an editorial offence in the modern age. > > A "lead" is a "leader" in the twitter age. > > In the noughties, everyone above the janitor had to be a 'director'. That terminology failed to stick as the managerialist bullshit was universally mocked. It has since been replaced with a pseudo-hierarchy of management levels. > > Francis > > > On 4 June 2017 22:32:18 BST, Michael Kenward <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > What does an “improvement research institute” do? (And why doesn't it have capital letters?) > > What is a “lead”? > > Is there a junior management team? (I like that idea.) > > MK > > > <> > From: psci-com: on public engagement with science [mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Rebecca Simmons > Sent: 25 May 2017 08:12 > To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Subject: [PSCI-COM] Comms & Engagement Lead post at new health institute in Cambridge > > The newly funded improvement research institute in the University of Cambridge is looking for a Communications & Engagement lead. They will also be a member of our senior management team. > > See details here: http://www.jobs.cam.ac.uk/job/13852/ <http://www.jobs.cam.ac.uk/job/13852/> > > > ********************************************************************** > psci-com how-to: Once subscribed, send emails for the list to [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>. 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