Hi all,there's been a previous attempt to affiliate the open movements, and I hope something like it can be resurrected. John Cummings (a Wikipedian In Residence, currently at UNESCO) proposed a "league" of open movements in the UK, involving the Open Knowledge Foundation (as it was then called), Wikimedia and groups. For a while, there was a part-time staff member, hosted in the Wikimedia UK office in London, who did some co-ordination between different groups: I think it involved mainly looking at how to maximise the impact of events by coordinating speakers, resources and publicity. Then in 2015 Wikimedia UK had a large funding cut and scaled down its office staff. I've asked John and also Jon Davies (WMUK Chief Executive at the time) if there's any write-up of what was achieved. Rather than a journal, I think it's co-ordination of activity that's needed: of events, of advocacy. Although a top-sliced person working between different projects and institutions probably isn't feasible, maybe we can push to expand the roles of people in key positions.When I talk to research projects as a WIR, I find that we can in one sitting discuss open data for the semantic web, openly licensing digital resources for support education, and opening research outputs to achieve reach. It's hard to talk about open education in economics, for example, without discussing the availability and reusability of data. I expect a lot of us are finding ourselves thinking and advocating across different categories of open. (I like Suchith's suggestion of explicitly looking at overlaps in dedicated conference sessions.) Maybe we should be pushing for more institutional recognition of this multi-layered nature of our work?--On 2 June 2017 at 18:21, Lorna Campbell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:Hi all,Apologies for coming to this thread so late, so just a few quick thoughts.I agree that we need to work harder to draw together the different strands of open and I like the idea of encouraging different strands of activity at open education conferences. I think in the past there was a feeling that Open Access advocacy tended to drown out open education voices, but I think we need to move past that and make greater efforts to work together. There are already some networks that are trying to make this happen, such as the Open Knowledge Open Education Working Group.I don’t think we need a new journal, but we definitely do need more research on the benefits of open. There is a distinct lack of funding though as Viv rightly points out.I also agree with Viv that we need to target our own governments, agencies and institutions and we need to be able to show how openness in general and open education in particular addresses current strategic objectives. So if digital skills are high on the agenda, we need to be able to show how open education can support this.Definitely think it would be a good idea to schedule a webinar to discuss this further and keep the momentum going.Cheers,LornaOn 30 May 2017, at 17:57, Vivien Rolfe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:Hi AllMy thinking is there is stronger North America / EU activity on all of this - I personally feel it is the UK, our agencies and institutions we need to lobby. At our OER conferences we are seeing contributions from diverse groups, and maybe now is the time to decide on some shared goals.There are some relevant journals as Frances suggests - also EURODL. I don't think lack of a journal is a problem - maybe there isn't a great number of papers coming out and this makes the community look weak? (But there are no research funds either).A webinar would be good to build on what we learned at OER17, and maybe we can spark some work to contribute to OER18 where we are keen to keep the politics debate alive (https://oer18.oerconf.org).Paul mentioned the ICDE and they are looking for advocacy champions - you have to be a member though, and if you can scale their application system, you have more patience than me!Best wishesVivOn Tue, May 30, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Frances Bell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:Dear all,I really like the idea of joining all the 'opens' but I am not sure a new journal is needed. I can think immediately of 2 open access journals with matching scope - Research in Learning Technology And Open Praxis. It's good to amplify 💪On 30 May 2017 12:25 pm, "Teresa MacKinnon" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:Many thanks to all who have replied, there's much to consider here and Viv has suggested that we convene an OpenEdSig webinar to discuss further. More news here soon! For those who haven't yet replied, please feel free to extend this thread :)
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