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PS: If you choose to use PALM, with the 4 timepoints, consider using the
"-ise" option. It doesn't require compound symmetry, but requires that the
errors themselves are symmetrical (i.e., have a symmetrical distribution
around zero).

On 30 May 2017 at 23:23, Anderson M. Winkler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi Kavous,
>
> What are the research hypotheses? If it's about changes over timepoints,
> and interaction group by timepoint, then this needs the assumption of
> compound symmetry, which is fine for 2 timepoints, but becomes harder with
> 4. If you want to make that assumption, then you can use PALM, defining one
> exchangeablity block per subject, and permuting within-block and also
> whole-block (for the interactions.
>
> If you can't make the compound symmetry assumption, consider Bryan
> Guillaume's toolbox called SwE. It seems the most recent version is on
> GitHub: https://github.com/BryanGuillaume/SwE-toolbox
>
> If, however, the hypothesis is about group differences regardless of
> changes in time, then randomise can be used directly, with the option
> --permuteBlocks. This is the Example 6 of the randomise paper:
> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053811914000913
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> All the best,
>
> Anderson
>
>
> On 30 May 2017 at 05:05, Kavous <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Hi FSLers,
>>
>> I'm going to analyze a longitudinal VBM between 3 groups and within 4
>> time-points.
>>
>> By reading following discussions, I know that in 2 time-points analysis I
>> have to use all my subjects' data to make a study-specific template and
>> subtract pre-post data after smoothing for randomise analysis.
>>
>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=FSL;d6651f48.1008
>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=FSL;3dc8868b.1408
>>
>> However, my question is that is there any way to consider all 4
>> time-points in a single analysis?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kavous
>>
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