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I had the same in the old days, Maryam

I had a PGCE and 8 years' experience of teaching English for a range of purposes abroad -

On my return to UK, to work in Community ESOL, I had to do the CITESLA-  which had just been introduced as the bare minimum for new applicants teaching ESOL.

Actually it was very enjoyable if a bit basic.

To get full-time ESOL work, I later had to do the TESLFACE. Also very enjoyable and interesting in a different way.

I think it's always the problem with different routes into professional work.

Good luck

Frances

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Maryam Almohammad <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
This is interesting how qualifications are used as a gatekeeping. I had experience in teaching  English abroad for three years. I have an MA in Teaching English for Warwick University and a PhD in Education (TESOL) from Bristol. However, I could not get any ESOL or foundation year job. The language centre at Bristol University told me if you do not have CELTA, we do not recognise academic qualifications plus experience. Some other institutions accept. 

 Some teachers think they should go upwards from CELTA to MSc in TESOL. While I am asked to go downward, from MA and Phd in TESOL to CELTA. It feels really annoying. 

Applying for an academic job is even harder because you are asked to have a teaching experience in TESOL in HE. Employers assume everyone is born with teaching experience. 

Kind Regards, 

Maryam

Kind Regards,

Maryam Almohammad
PhD in Education (Applied Linguistics & Literacy Studies)
Arabic Language Tutor
The School of Modern Languages
 University of Bristol 





On 28 June 2017 at 11:40, McKeown, Anne <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hello Dominic

 

At UCL Institute of Education we have a PGCE English (Literacy and ESOL) course.  We have many students on this programme with a similar background of CELTA and ESOL experience.

It’s possible to take the course combining literacy and ESOL or as either subject alone. As Mary commented, bursaries are available for anyone taking a route which includes literacy, providing certain eligibility criteria are met.

 

We have an Open Day event coming up next week on Wednesday 5 July. If your colleague is interested in attending, she can find information about this HERE

 

And if you would like more details about the course, please email me at this address and I’ll be happy to send information or discuss on the phone.

Best wishes

Anne

 

 

From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board [mailto:ESOL-RESEARCH@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Dominic Clarke
Sent: 27 June 2017 18:52
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: DTLLS(ESOL) and equivalents

 

Hello everyone

 

One of the teachers who volunteers in the organisation where I 

coordinate the English classes is extremely keen to progress into

paid ESOL work. She has already gained the CELTA qualification 

and now wishes to study further to improve her prospects of 

gaining paid ESOL work. A few years ago I completed the DTLLS

(ESOL) qualification and this was very relevant to my progression

in ESOL.  My understanding is that this specific qualification is no 

longer available, has this been replaced with another qualification

aimed at ESOL teachers ? 

 

Regards

 

Dominic

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