We haven’t had this on site yet, but I did get asked the other day for a few things, including DBS, when I did an outreach visit to a school.
Because I work on a factory site (even though it’s in a museum on a factory site) and because I am employed through the Royal Mint I cannot actually be issued a
DBS check, because they will not issue them to factories/this type of employer no matter what I do. I have a basic security check through Disclosure Scotland.
Our policy is that no member of our staff be left alone with children anyway though and we make this clear. I would never release details of my Learning Officer’s
qualifications as I feel that is the business of the organisation alone to make sure that it has competent staff. I’ll be aware we might get a few more requests now, thanks for sharing.
Lucy-Ann Pickering
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I understand wanting to see insurance and risk assessment, and I have provided these for school's in the past. I have also informed schools that myself and all the learning volunteers have DBS certificates
and that there are first aiders on site. However since they are coming to our venue, I would not sign their code of practise and I would not provide them with DBS certificates or the rest of the long list of information. Especially as as previously mentioned,
I would never have a group of students without accompanying teachers who are ultimately responsible for them. I have not myself ever had schools ask for that level of information, and quite honestly, if one did I would pass them up.
Michelle Graabek
Activities and Interpretation Officer
Turner's House in Twickenham
Sally Turner skrev den 2017-05-25 16:07:
We recently have to provide insurance and risk assessments and DBS regularly.
We looked into the DBS and the short answer is each school does it's own child protection policy and they have the right to demand every contractor including the electrician has
a recent DBS that they have the right to see it and to take down the number and a copy of it.
Chertsey Museum
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I do get this occasionally (but not this much info). I just have a copy of my DBS, First aid, our PL insurance
and risk assessments just on the desktop of my computer in case I'm asked. I then just send these out as attachments.
I'm not sure why they need employers liability insurance. The references is an odd question. I do have testimonials
I can send but I've never been asked. The agreement to code of practice is something I've only ever been asked for when I've run after school clubs. However I can't imagine that is arduous either. I think this is the documentation requirements for an after
school club provider and someone is just being 'belt and braces'.
Public Engagement Manager
Arnos Vale Cemetery Trust
I think this is unreasonable. Insurance and risk assessments ok. DBS and First Aid not applicable. Professional qualifications and
references not relevant or their business. Agreement to their code of practice!!!! I wish school visit leaders would adhere to our code of practice/terms and conditions (or even read it). They are coming onto our premises not the other way round.
The leaders are responsible for their charges and should not leave them alone with Museum staff or volunteers. It is illegal to
apply for a DBS check unless you are in a role with sole supervision of a child/children or young person/people.
Having said that, the vast majority of our schools are brilliant, some do ask for copies of our insurance and rarely we are asked
for our Health and Safety Policy. We make it clear that our risk assessment is generic and provide complimentary tickets for leaders to do their own using ours as a starting point. The information schools are sent gives guidelines on health and safety and
clearly states that the school leaders are responsible for the children at all times. We do provide first aid as a moral duty of care to our visitors, but the legal requirement is only to our staff and volunteers not the public.
I would be ringing the school and asking why this information is required, and then I'd go to the local authority/academy lead with
the same question.
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Subject: School bookings - H&S requirements
I'm coming back to an age-old question about H&S requirements for school bookings.
A school recently asked us to provide the following documents in advance of their visit:
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Evidence of Public Liability Insurance
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Evidence of Employer's Liability Insurance
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First aider certificates
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Evidence of professional qualifications
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Names of two trade references
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Sign and return agreement to adhere to their code of practice
I don't think it's unreasonable for schools to ask for assurance that safeguarding/H&S procedures are in place, but we've had a sharp
rise in these rather excessive requirements in recent years.
I imagine many of you have had similar requests and am interested to know how you deal with them.
Part of the problem seems to be that some schools lump museum visits together with other contractors (e.g. workers on the school
premises, etc).
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