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Those of us who remember mainframes (CDC 2000 at LSE, Dec-10 and Vax cluster at PNL) learned the hard way to keep three copies of everything in rotation.  I lost a lot of data at PNL because it was seen as a teaching institution and some good student run surveys were lost during routine “spring cleaning“ until I sussed out what was going on.  When I retired an alert operator gave me seven 2,000ft mag tapes which she’d created for me as a personal back-up.  These spent a couple of years languishing in the UK Data Archive at Essex University before it transpired they no longer had a Dec-10, when they returned them together with two CDs to which everything had been copied. 

 

Before I could get SPSS for Windows on a PC, and because my exiting PC was DOS based, I’d had to borrow a Windows machine and learn Windows first.  See: http://surveyresearch.weebly.com/old-dog-old-tricks-using-spss-syntax-to-beat-the-mouse-trap.html   Of course, SPSS couldn’t read any of my old *.sys files or many of the others until I realised that they had edition numbers tagged on to the extensions.  When I changed all the *.sys to *.sav and got rid of the edition numbers, everything worked fine.  Some data are still on 5” floppies, some on 3½ but few PCs have these any more.  Essex are only interested in “big data” so I am the only repository for some smaller surveys, for which I been unable to track down the original researchers or to obtain permission to deposit, but Edinburgh have recently taken one off my hands: hopefully they will eventually take more.

 

Nowadays I always save SPSS files with matching names for *.sps and *.sav files (sometimes *.spv as well) each edition being numbered or lettered in sequence.  Files are also backed up to at least one external drive, sometimes two.  Most of the stuff I work on these days goes to the UKDS archive at Essex as well, so that’s a fall-back if necessary.

 

Just got a new PC (Lenovo ThinkCentre E73 desktop (64-bit, Win7Pro win8.1 pro, Core i7 - 4790s 8GB 1TB C: drive, DVDRW with additional Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600 Mhz 1.5V Non-ECC DIMM memory, Office 2016, giving 16gb RAM in total.) which keeps offering me cloud storage, but I’m a bit of a Luddite and prefer to keep stuff where I can see it.  It has taken me three weeks to get SPSS 24 on the new machine, but I succeeded at last this morning. 

 

Copied to Research Data Management list as it is relevant to their concerns.

 

John F Hall (Mr)

[Retired academic survey researcher]

 

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PS  Outlook 2016 is a nightmare, so I’m still using Outlook 2013 on the old machine.

 

 

 

From: SPSSX(r) Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rich Ulrich
Sent: 11 April 2017 00:09
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Recovering temporary files

 

Do people still hold to the old tenets of database backing-up, from the main-frame days?

Even in modified form?  Make backups, and keep them in multiple locations ...

 

I was pleased that my computer center did weekly backups of everything.  Even when I

moved to PC for many analyses, I was doing a few other analyses on the mainframe (VAX)

so I had my final files in two places by virtue of necessity.  But I remember that the Pitt

Computer center respected the full prescription:  They kept a useful backup on-site, and

another (less-frequent) backup of everything at a remote site, safe (even) from fire or

natural catastrophe.

 

As it gets easier and faster to save your own data, moving from floppy disks to CDs to

thumb drives, all the hardware is also getting more reliable -- In my case, the "reliability"

probably out-weighs the ease, and backups are getting further apart.  But I don't have

vital data these days, either.  Is "the cloud"  used by many people? - for data, or for backup?


--
Rich Ulrich

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