Oh Patrick you’ve started something with that. I won’t go back to clay, but have a real fountain pen, * do, usually, write a first daft (not that they always get changed than much, but sometimes…). Have certainly seen people reading from their smartphones (which I don’t have; but could use my i-pod or). I transferred a sounding piece to my I-pod & except for th pace between the tens, it looked pretty much as on paper ( as we adjust our eyes to the new surface?). A big hmmnnn….? to it all… Doug > On Apr 26, 2017, at 6:44 AM, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Oh yes. I'm all for it. Whatever it is! > In the last hour or two I have been looking at a piece apparently written > on to a mobile recording device 15 years ago -- although I have a faint > suspicion that I wrote it as if I were transcribing... I can hardly > remember it. > I agree with you about trying to track the origins et cetera. Wherever it > comes from in us, let's trackit once it's out! > * > There's plenty of mumbling from people with sheets of typescript -- I won't > even spend time considering the possibility of remembering. Remembering? > And , while I know some who can deliver a fine reading from a smartphone, > it seems more likely that they won't > > L > > > > > > > > > On 26 April 2017 at 13:31, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Heathen knights, Patrick would now make use of lances for selfie sticks no >> doubt. Lawrence, when I rattle out poems on ipad, I still save versions of >> them and send them to desktop. Good to know where stuff came from and >> sometimes the freshness of early drafts still trumps stuff much-mucked >> with. >> >> Bill >> >> On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 at 8:25 PM, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >>> I've experienced this poems on a mobile phone stuff. >>> One bit of me finds it exciting -- in some ways >>> but it seems to make sense of the words spaced out meaningfully >> impossible >>> and negates benefits of redrafting -- thinking now of evidence of >>> benefitting writing skills by printing out and redrafting that was known >>> maybe 30 years ago -- but that's been lost or subsumed into "computers >> are >>> good" and now what I think of as idiots' phones subsume even that >>> >>> I tried, at a workshop, to express this a while back. The young person >>> addressed listened very politely and then said "but I don't know about >>> that" >>> >>> L >>> >>> >>> >>> On 26 April 2017 at 11:02, Patrick McManus < >> [log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> thanks Bill -I have never been able to commit to memory -I remember >> once >>> I >>>> was in a medieval play -had terrible job remembering my few line -hang >> on >>>> >>>> 'her come I a heathen knight for St George to >>>> fight...................................'wel some has stuck over 50 >>>> years!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> On 26/04/2017 09:49, Bill Wootton wrote: >>>> >>>>> Printing? What's all this printing stuff, Patrick? At poetry readings >>> I've >>>>> been to recently, poets read their stuff, if they can't commit it to >>>>> memory, straight off their mobile phones or tablets. I'm more like >> your >>>>> 'he' here for the moment but when the next ink cartridge conks, I >> might >>> go >>>>> with the flow. I like your line here 'old a clay tablet'. >>>>> >>>>> Bill >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 at 6:20 PM, Patrick McManus < >>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> *ALTHOUGH* >>>>>> >>>>>> he >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote >>>>>> >>>>>> his poems >>>>>> >>>>>> on his super >>>>>> >>>>>> highly efficient >>>>>> >>>>>> ultra-modern >>>>>> >>>>>> tech computer >>>>>> >>>>>> he >>>>>> >>>>>> nostalgically >>>>>> >>>>>> printed them up >>>>>> >>>>>> on his beloved >>>>>> >>>>>> old a clay tablet >>>>>> >>>>>> printer >>>>>> >>>>>> /pmcmanus/ >>>>>> >>>>>> /s156/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> Douglas Barbour [log in to unmask] https://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/ Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuations 2 (UofAPress). Recording Dates (Rubicon Press). Listen. If (UofAPress): and as you read the sea is turning its dark pages turning its dark pages. Denise Levertov