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Dear Ian and all, La RED made two yeara ago a study for ICSU (Regional Office for LAC ) regarding the university programs on DRM in the region. This study was lead by Virginia Jimenez (also membre of IRDR SC) and it was developed with the support of 20 researchers in the countries on exception Brazil. The study was called IDENTIFICATION OF EXISTING ADVANCES AND LINKS TO THE INITIATIVES OF THE SCIENTIFIC AND ACADEMIC COMMUNITY WITH DISASTER RISK REDUCTION (DRR)... IN LATIN AMERICA AND THE CARIBBEAN. In summary, there are approx (according to sources identified) 1,234 universities in the region. Less than 6% of them address DRM initiatives (this study did not include programs in preparedness for emergency response, because it was not the purpose. This means the study did not take them into account for the results): The figures were: There are 94 programs in DRR. These 94 programs are hosted by 70 Universities in 19 countries (Cuba was included). In addition, there are 40 research centers with specific projects on the subject. DRM in this case includes Risk Understanding (social construction of risk; hazard, vulnerability and risk assessment/evaluation; risk perception and communication); Risk Reduction (corrective, prospective, prescriptive actions and interventions to reduce vulnerability and hazards when it is possible); Risk Transfer (insurance, financial protection instruments, contingent liabilities); all of them as ex ante actions. From Disaster Management (ex post actions) only was included recovery/recontruction as oportunities to avoid the reconstruction of pre-exiting vulnerability and where the other ex ante actions should be included. All the best, Omar From: Ian Burton Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:31 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Definition help! DRM vs DRR Ilan and Omar, I agree with Ilan ...Thank you Omar for providing this longer term perspective and epistemology. I came away from the Americas Regional Platform Meeting held in Montreal last week, thinking that among other things DRM is an emerging profession. Forest management / water resources management …… wildlife management, etc etc, Perhaps a subset of risk management more generally ….. Is there an inventory somewhere of certificates and degrees in DRM? Perhaps programmes in emergency management might like to think of renaming themselves as DRM - and revising their scope and curriculum accordingly. best Ian On Mar 11, 2017, at 2:55 AM, Ilan Kelman <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Thank you, Omar, for providing this longer-term perspective. I found the UNDRO (1980) report at https://archive.org/details/naturaldisasters00offi and an analysis of UNDRO at http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-7717.1980.tb00129.x/abstract The "disaster risk creation" paper initiated, formulated, and led by James Lewis (which Terry and Ian mentioned) is at http://currents.plos.org/disasters/article/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-disaster-risk-reduction-drr-versus-disaster-risk-creation-drc Thank you for this discussion, Ilan http://www.ilankelman.org Twitter @IlanKelman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Omar Dario Cardona A. Uniandes <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:35 AM Subject: Re: [RADIX] Definition help! DRM vs DRR From: Omar Darío Cardona A. UNAL Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 7:57 PM To: emma lisa freja schipper ; [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Definition help! DRM vs DRR Hi Lisa, Terminology and glossaries are useful for the “problem understanding” and certainly the epistemology and conceptual frameworks have been very relevant for many of us during the last three or four decades. Unfortunately, in most cases, for many researchers and officers, the terminology has been more relevant itself than the real problem understanding... Most researchers are naive or have been more interested to have, for example, papers in international journals than to get effectiveness regarding risk reduction or are professionals interested to be officers of a NGO or a national or international agency... for their modus vivendi; i.e. to be part of an incredible and now huge bureaucracy. After the UNDRO report (1980) about the expert meeting of July 1979, many of us have been attempting to improve the conceptual frameworks. In 1990s we started to use DRM and DRR (during the IDNDR) to make emphasis in risk better than in disaster (disaster risk reduction better than disaster reduction) but today they are almost the same in most places. At the end of 1980s Colombia had a National System for Disaster Prevention and Attention (ex ante and ex post actions) and Mexico a National System of Civil Protection (after the volcanic eruption of Nevado del Ruiz and the earthquake of 1985 respectively). During the 1990s and 2000s the Inter-American Development Bank, the World Bank and the UNDP promoted “National Systems for Disaster Risk Management” in most countries in the Americas (all created or updated by law). Most of these countries did not follow the terminology of the UNISDR. DRM was the umbrella for four public policies: Risk Knowledge (or identification/assessment/communication of risk); Risk Reduction (corrective, prospective, prescriptive); Risk Transfer (insurance and financial protection) and Disaster Management (preparedness, warning, response and recovery –rehabilitation/reconstruction). In some countries, they were missional processes and the risk transfer was included into risk reduction... but overall this is the view in the Latin American region. Clearly DRR was considered one of the components or policies of the DRM. At the end, what is important is the purpose, the objective and in some places DRM is understood not as an agency, or as a discipline, or as a sector of development, but as: a strategy of development, or of sustainability and transformation. All the best, Omar-Dario From: emma lisa freja schipper Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2017 12:10 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Definition help! DRM vs DRR Hello colleagues, I am looking for some brief suggestions for how to distinguish DRM and DRR. I am using the IPCC SREX definitions, pasted below. Could you please tell me if (1) you agree with them and (2) you have another, better (and hopefully more simple) way of distinguishing these two things? Do you think the definitions below reflect the way that climate change people view DRM/DRR? There were obviously lots of disaster risk people involved in the SREX (including many of you) but ultimately it was an IPCC-driven report. Thanks! Disaster risk management (DRM) Processes for designing, implementing, and evaluating strategies, policies, and measures to improve the understanding of disaster risk, foster disaster risk reduction and transfer, and promote continuous improvement in disaster preparedness, response, and recovery practices, with the explicit purpose of increasing human security, well-being, quality of life, and sustainable development. Disaster risk reduction (DRR) Denotes both a policy goal or objective, and the strategic and instrumental measures employed for anticipating future disaster risk; reducing existing exposure, hazard, or vulnerability; and improving resilience. Lisa -- ............................................................................. Lisa Schipper, Ph.D. +84 (0)162 62 89444 .............................................................................