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Richard

My understanding is that the rest of 11/15 has been replaced but the conditions are still lingering. Personally, I wish that they would go, taking the access condition with them.

Ken’s suggestion of putting some models/examples together based on current practice – with reasoning, sounds like a sound short-term measure.

Stewart

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Richard Clark
Sent: 21 March 2017 13:00
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Subject: Re: Model Planning Conditions for archaeology

Hasn’t 11/95 been replaced/withdrawn, my planners certainly raise an eyebrow if its referenced.

Cheers,

Richard Clark (MA, ACIfA)

Principal Archaeologist

Leicestershire County Council

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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Smith Ken
Sent: 21 March 2017 12:55
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Subject: Re: Model Planning Conditions for archaeology

This was something I raised at England Exec some time ago – that ALGAO should look to produce a/some model condition(s) for use/modification by members.

The suggestion met with a positive response but a difficulty in identifying someone to carry it forward.

Worth raising with Quinton/Exec again to see if it might be progressed – even though the shifting sands are recognised as a bit of a contextual problem? Or there is the AGM next month……

Regards

Ken

Ken Smith

Cultural Heritage Manager

Peak District National Park Authority

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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rosanne Cummings
Sent: 21 March 2017 12:44
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Subject: Re: Model Planning Conditions for archaeology

Hi All,

There was a brief presentation about this at the ALGAO Training Day last year (I think), in which the use of HE's model condition in GPA was discussed. I raised a query and was met with a barrage of different views - I have since done some casual investigation into the different conditions used across authorities and it varies enormously.

On a side note - our Planning Enforcement team did some training internally some time ago now about improving conditions to make them more enforceable; we changed archaeology conditions accordingly to include, among other things, time constraints on things like WSI submission and notice in advance of fieldwork commencing. However, a subsequent regime change here has moved away from that, and we are now encouraged to use the Planning Inspectorate model conditions.

I have raised concerns about those here - on a number of issues - but mainly about the process of discharging conditions, at what stage, use of part-discharge etc etc. Again, a lot of variation across the country I think.

It strikes me as the kind of thing someone at some stage must have reviewed, varying practices across LPA's?

Rosie

On 21 March 2017 at 12:34, Stewart Bryant <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Nick

No easy answer I’m afraid, especially as the neighbourhood planning bill going through HP is looking to constrain the use of pre-commencement conditions.

Currently, the Historic England GP2 has an ‘example’ condition (CLG no longer approves of the term ‘model’) which is I think is useful. Otherwise, the conditions on the planning inspectorate website and the old circular 11/95 are I believe still active including the awful access condition.

Stewart

From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nick Boldrini
Sent: 21 March 2017 12:22
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Subject: Model Planning Conditions for archaeology

Hi Guys

Is there a final list anywhere of model archaeological planning conditions?

I can find documents from EH and ALGAO suggesting wording in response to a consultation about them in 2010, but not the final version of the Conditions. Were they ever produced?

Best wishes

Nick Boldrini

Historic Environment Record Officer

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