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Dear all, The concept of interdisciplinarity raises the question of what constitutes a discipline. I was surprised when looking in the Oxford English Dictionary to see that the English word has a long history of association with teaching, including (distinctive?) rules for conduct or action. I had previously assumed it belonged to the rise of the modern university, but no: in classical Latin it seems the meanings of disciplina already included "branch of study, philosophical school or sect." Forms: ME dicipline, ME disciplin, ME disciplyn, ME dysplyn, ME dyssepleyne, ME dysyplyn, ME 16 discepline, ME–15 discyplyne, ME–15 dyscipline, ME–15 dysciplyne, ME–15 dyscyplyne, ME–16 disciplyne, ME–16 discypline, ME–16 dyssiplyne, ME– discipline, 15–16 dissipline, 15–16 dyssyplyne, 16 decipline, 16 diceplen; Sc.pre-17 deciplin, pre-17 disceplin, pre-17 dischipline, pre-17 discipleine, pre-17 disciplen, pre-17 disciplene, pre-17 disciplene, pre-17 disciplyn, pre-17 disciplyne, pre-17 17– discipline. N.E.D. (1896) also records a form of the beginning of the word ME dyssy- Origin: Of multiple origins. Partly a borrowing from French. Partly a borrowing from Latin. Etymons: French dicepline; Latin disciplīna. Etymology: < (i) Anglo-Norman dicepline, discepline, Anglo-Norman and Old French decepline, decipline, desepline, descepline, Anglo-Norman and Middle French discipline, Middle French disipline, dissipline (French discipline ) massacre, carnage (c1100), teaching, instruction (first half of the 12th cent.), rule or body of rules for conduct or action (first half of the 12th cent.), punishment, chastisement (c1170), punishment or chastisement either imposed by ecclesiastical authority or voluntarily undertaken as penance (1174; frequently with reference to mortification of the flesh), self-control, self-discipline (last quarter of the 12th cent. or earlier), branch of learning or knowledge (c1370), knowledge of military matters (beginning of the 15th cent., originally and chiefly in discipline de chevalerie ), whip, scourge (1433), act of scourging undertaken as a penitential exercise (1451), and its etymon (ii) classical Latin disciplīna (also discipulīna ) teaching, instruction, training, branch of study, philosophical school or sect, system, practice, method, orderly conduct based on moral training, order maintained in a body of people, in post-classical Latin also moral law, obedience to divine law, divine warning or punishment (Vulgate), religious doctrine (late 2nd cent. in Tertullian), monastic rule, chastisement (6th cent.), scourging (7th cent.) < discipulus disciple n. <http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/53729#eid6684943> + -īna -inesuffix4 <http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/94874#eid542809> . The Latin word was also borrowed into other European languages. Compare Old Occitan disciplina, disiplina, desiplina, Catalan disciplina (13th cent.), Spanish disciplina (1250), Portuguese disciplina (14th cent.), Italian disciplina (c1300), all in a similar range of senses. Compare also Middle Dutch disciplīne, disciplijn (Dutch discipline), Middle Low German disciplīne (only in sense ‘penitential exercise’), Old High German (in an apparently isolated attestation) disciplina branch of learning or knowledge (Middle High German disciplīn, German Disciplin, now Disziplin, in early use chiefly in senses relating to punishment, from the 16th cent. also in sense ‘branch of learning or knowledge’). I would be grateful for anyone's thoughts on what constitutes a discipline now. Stephen Stephen Boyd Davis Professor of Design Research School of Design Royal College of Art Kensington Gore, London SW7 2EU T (Sharmin Choudhury, School Administrator) +44 (0)20 7590 4352 T (personal) +44 (0)20 7590 4343 www.rca.ac.uk From: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Susan Hagan <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 at 10:18 To: <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [PHD-DESIGN] NEW DISCUSSION: INTERDISCIPLINARITY > Dear Lois and all, > > So personally interesting to see this thread. > > In addition to Filippo David, and Gabriele's contributions, I thought that I > might add that I found my research interests because of a joint master’s > program that Design and English used to offer at Carnegie Mellon Univ. In my > case, rhetoric influenced design. > > After I was accepted, I was honestly annoyed when I found out that in addition > to courses I hoped to take in the School of Design, I was expected to enroll > in classes offered by English. (I obviously had not done enough homework on > the program, so it was a nice bit of serendipity.) Courses in rhetoric focused > on invention, style, and textual approaches that were related to genre but not > as narrow as genre. The prompt I remember most was, “you find the > connections.” > > The first thing I noticed was that it changed my approach to drawing, that I > began seeing form as driven by a sense of place if that makes any sense. But > as I became more curious, I began to wonder about how these two obviously > different but interacting elements, image and text, actually work together, > and how we might make them work together more effectively. I’m thinking about > this through the lens of arguments outside of advertising. That led to my > hybrid self—PhD is in rhetoric, but the visual/verbal interests are where my > heart lies. > > Last of all, looking through a rhetoric/design lens ended up including > readings from cognitive science as my advisor was very curious about it at the > time, and I caught that curiosity. > > Hope this is useful, > > Susan > > > Susan M. Hagan Ph.D. MDes | Carnegie Mellon University Qatar > > >> >> This leads to my next question: what are the fields we designers/design >> researchers work with? Not just the fields obviously related to design, like >> anthropology, psychology, and business, but other fields that you may be >> working with. Is there a catalogue of the kinds of interdisciplinary research >> that involves designers? Are there some fields that designers work more >> frequently with or even more productively with than others? >> >> >> Lois >> >> >> Lois Frankel PhD >> Associate Professor >> School of Industrial Design >> Carleton University >> Ottawa Canada >> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> > Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design > Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design -----------------------------------------------------------------