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FYI Cochrane have expressed a position http://community.cochrane.org/news/cochrane-statement-us-travel-restrictions On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:59 AM, Omid Zamani <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Dear All, > As a researcher from Iran, I would like to thank those who expressed their > solidarity with us. However I don't think banning scientific conferences in > the US could be an appropriate response, it's kind of a reaction rather > than an ACTION to change this policy. Instead I would like to suggest > sending letters to the white house and calling your congress > representatives, members of parliament and other public figures to stand up > against such fascistic order. American Sociology Association and British > Sociological Association have made strong stances that can be replicated. > > Moreover I urge you to gather and publish evidence on the impact of such > injustice on scientific community. > You may also like to join the The March for Science > <https://www.marchforscience.com/> on the Earth Day. > Finally I would like to highlight that Human Rights should prevail over > any contrasting interest or evidence! > > Best Regards > Omid > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Gerd Antes <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> With the terrible German history of the last centery as background I >> would like to strongly support >> Ami's points. >> To seperate science and politics is not possible in general and >> particularly not in the context of evidence-based .... >> A travel ban directly violates the production and exchange of global >> knowledge, and systematic lies and twisting >> facts damages fundamental rules of science. >> >> Difficult to see how addressing these issues on this list should be >> propaganda. Those who are excluded from meetings >> and conferences for religious reasons or country of origin certainly >> deserve our solidarity. >> >> Gerd >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 06, 2017 at 04:49:30PM +0000, Ami Banerjee wrote: >> > I agree that this is difficult but I would like to offer an >> alternative >> > viewpoint. >> > Science depends on open non-discriminatory discourse. For scientific >> > meetings to be valid they must be open in a non discriminatory >> way. I am >> > not blaming conference organisers but current US border regulations >> as >> > President Trump would have them, mean that many scientists would not >> be >> > able to attend due to their country of birth or nationality ergo the >> > congress is not open. >> > I am a cardiologist and epidemiologist and last week's ban affected >> > several of my colleagues in that short time. Therefore, I think it is >> > simplistic to decide not to debate politics here. That promotes the >> idea >> > of ivory tower academia that does not engage with society. As long >> as my >> > colleagues can't attend, and the conferences are not open, I am not >> > attending either. >> > >> > In my own country, the UK, this morning I attended a scientific >> panel in >> > Parliament to debate the impact of Brexit on UK science.There are >> many >> > scientific fora which are debating this point, and should be >> debating this >> > point, in my opinion, because if we the science community do not, >> then >> > other people will decide for us. >> > Evidence-based healthcare has led the way in rooting out lies, >> > "alternative facts" and "fake news" in healthcare, and in public >> debate >> > for several decades. There have been many calls for "evidence-based >> > policymaking" but the uptake of this paradigm has been disappointing >> in >> > many respects, and it is particularly threatened in many countries >> right >> > now, including the US and the UK. Therefore, I believe this >> listserver can >> > be a home for respectful debate. >> > Best wishes >> > Ami >> > On 6 February 2017 at 16:30, Glen Burgoyne <[1] >> [log in to unmask]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > I strongly agree. If we were to follow through with this policy we >> are >> > just hurting our own. The sponsors of medical conferences in the >> USA 🇺🇸 >> > have nothing to do with the current political events there. >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > On Feb 6, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Alan Adelman >> > <[2][log in to unmask]> wrote: >> > >> > Agree with Terry Shaneyfelt >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > On Feb 6, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Shaneyfelt, Terry >> > <[3][log in to unmask]> wrote: >> > >> > This doesn’t have anything to do with evidence based >> healthcare. >> > >> > This listserv should not a medium for propagating political >> agendas. >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Evidence based health (EBH) >> > [[4]mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of >> Juan >> > Gérvas >> > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 4:46 AM >> > To: [5][log in to unmask] >> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Boycott Conferences in the US >> > >> > >> > >> > Solidarity People Affected ‘Muslim Ban’: Call for an Academic >> > Boycott of International Conferences held in the US. >> > [6]https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeNN_2HHREt1h-dm >> _CgWpFHw8NDPGLCkOwB4lLRFtKFJqI25w/formResponse >> > >> > -un saludo juan gérvas @JuanGrvas >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Dr Amitava Banerjee >> > Senior Clinical Lecturer in Clinical Data Science and Honorary >> Consultant >> > Cardiologist >> > >> > Farr Institute of Health Informatics Research >> > >> > University College London >> > >> > E-mail: [7]ami[8][log in to unmask] >> > >> > [9][log in to unmask] >> > Tel:02035495449 >> > >> > Website: [10]http://iris.ucl.ac.uk/iris/browse/profile?upi=ABANE83 >> > Twitter:amibanerjee1 >> > >> > >> > References >> > >> > Visible links >> > 1. mailto:[log in to unmask] >> > 2. mailto:[log in to unmask] >> > 3. mailto:[log in to unmask] >> > 4. mailto:[log in to unmask] >> > 5. mailto:[log in to unmask] >> > 6. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeNN_2HHREt1h-dm_Cg >> WpFHw8NDPGLCkOwB4lLRFtKFJqI25w/formResponse >> > 7. https://mail.bham.ac.uk/owa/redir.aspx?C=vttMZLWdjUK-owgyxhs >> h2sPQIxmyxdEIIoW6pyyMCfpf9paPSel1CkyFCPv7jaXNa1U4_MfZrns.&UR >> L=mailto%3aa.banerjee.1%40bham.ac.uk%3b >> > 8. mailto:[log in to unmask] >> > 9. https://mail.bham.ac.uk/owa/redir.aspx?C=vttMZLWdjUK-owgyxhs >> h2sPQIxmyxdEIIoW6pyyMCfpf9paPSel1CkyFCPv7jaXNa1U4_MfZrns.&UR >> L=mailto%3aamibanerjee%40yahoo.com >> > 10. http://iris.ucl.ac.uk/iris/browse/profile?upi=ABANE83 >> >> -- >> >> Gruesse Gerd Antes >> >> ============================================================ >> ================ >> Prof. Dr. Gerd Antes T: +49 (0)761 203-6706 >> <+49%20761%202036706> (Sekr. -6715) >> Cochrane Deutschland / Cochrane Germany >> www.cochrane.de >> Universitaetsklinikum Freiburg Breisacher Str. 153 D-79110 >> Freiburg >> ============================================================ >> ================ >> >> >> >> Postfaktische Wissenschaft ----- Post-Truth / Post-Factual >> Science ??? >> ============================================================ >> ============================= >> Ist das Zeitalter der Kausalität vorbei? Is the era of causality over? >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1865921716300708 >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------ >> Big Data, Innovation, Personalisierte Medizin und Co. - Eine neue >> Wissenschaft-(lichkeit)? >> Big Data, Innovation, Personalised Medicine and co. - A new >> science(ability) in medicine? >> www.labtimes.org/editorial/e_654.lasso >> www.laborjournal.de/editorials/981.lasso >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------ >> Big Data und Personalisierte Medizin: Goldene Zukunft oder leere >> Versprechungen? >> Big Data and Pesonalized Medicine: Golden Promises or Empty Promises? >> http://www.aerzteblatt.de/archiv/175874 >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------ >> Wo ist der Beweis? de.testingtreatments.org >> www.verlag-hanshuber.com/index.php/wo-ist-der-beweis-7840.html >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------ >> > > > > -- > Omid Zamani, MD, MPH > Constituency Focal Point > The Eastern Mediterranean Region Constituency <http://emrc-tgf.org/> of > the Board of The Global Fund <http://theglobalfund.org/> > Mobile: +98(912)3757353 <+98%20912%20375%207353> > Affiliated Researcher, Regional Knowledge Hub <http://hivhub.ir> for > HIV&STI Surveillance > Member of Medical and Health Sociology Scientific Group, Iranian > Sociological Association <http://www.isa.org.ir/specialized-committees/75> > Member of Environment & Health Communication Scientific Group, Iranian > Association of Cultural Studies & Communication <http://www.iaocsc.ir/> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iranhivaids> > Mobile: +98(912)3757353 <+98%20912%20375%207353> > Web: http://zamani.info > Skype: dimotemps > -- Carlos A. 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