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Evidence-based-health is, of its nature, highly political. We cannot pretend that we are separate from world events. Ami makes a number of compelling points. Norman Vetter On 7 Feb 2017 05:49, "Ami Banerjee" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I agree that this is difficult but I would like to offer an alternative > viewpoint. > Science depends on open non-discriminatory discourse. For scientific > meetings to be valid they must be open in a non discriminatory way. I am > not blaming conference organisers but current US border regulations as > President Trump would have them, mean that many scientists would not be > able to attend due to their country of birth or nationality ergo the > congress is not open. > I am a cardiologist and epidemiologist and last week's ban affected > several of my colleagues in that short time. Therefore, I think it is > simplistic to decide not to debate politics here. That promotes the idea of > ivory tower academia that does not engage with society. As long as my > colleagues can't attend, and the conferences are not open, I am not > attending either. > > In my own country, the UK, this morning I attended a scientific panel in > Parliament to debate the impact of Brexit on UK science.There are many > scientific fora which are debating this point, and should be debating this > point, in my opinion, because if we the science community do not, then > other people will decide for us. > Evidence-based healthcare has led the way in rooting out lies, > "alternative facts" and "fake news" in healthcare, and in public debate for > several decades. There have been many calls for "evidence-based > policymaking" but the uptake of this paradigm has been disappointing in > many respects, and it is particularly threatened in many countries right > now, including the US and the UK. Therefore, I believe this listserver can > be a home for respectful debate. > > Best wishes > Ami > > On 6 February 2017 at 16:30, Glen Burgoyne <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> I strongly agree. If we were to follow through with this policy we are >> just hurting our own. The sponsors of medical conferences in the USA 🇺🇸 >> have nothing to do with the current political events there. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Feb 6, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Alan Adelman <00000211b3be413d-dmarc-reques >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Agree with Terry Shaneyfelt >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Feb 6, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Shaneyfelt, Terry <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >> This doesn’t have anything to do with evidence based healthcare. >> >> This listserv should not a medium for propagating political agendas. >> >> >> >> *From:* Evidence based health (EBH) [mailto:EVIDENCE-BASED-HEALTH@ >> JISCMAIL.AC.UK <[log in to unmask]>] *On Behalf Of *Juan >> Gérvas >> *Sent:* Monday, February 06, 2017 4:46 AM >> *To:* [log in to unmask] >> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Boycott Conferences in the US >> >> >> >> Solidarity People Affected ‘Muslim Ban’: Call for an Academic Boycott of >> International Conferences held in the US. >> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeNN_2HHREt1h-dm_Cg >> WpFHw8NDPGLCkOwB4lLRFtKFJqI25w/formResponse >> >> -un saludo juan gérvas @JuanGrvas >> >> > > > -- > > Dr Amitava Banerjee > Senior Clinical Lecturer in Clinical Data Science and Honorary Consultant > Cardiologist > > Farr Institute of Health Informatics Research > > University College London > > E-mail: ami > <https://mail.bham.ac.uk/owa/redir.aspx?C=vttMZLWdjUK-owgyxhsh2sPQIxmyxdEIIoW6pyyMCfpf9paPSel1CkyFCPv7jaXNa1U4_MfZrns.&URL=mailto%3aa.banerjee.1%40bham.ac.uk%3b>*[log in to unmask] > <[log in to unmask]>* > > [log in to unmask] > <https://mail.bham.ac.uk/owa/redir.aspx?C=vttMZLWdjUK-owgyxhsh2sPQIxmyxdEIIoW6pyyMCfpf9paPSel1CkyFCPv7jaXNa1U4_MfZrns.&URL=mailto%3aamibanerjee%40yahoo.com> > Tel:02035495449 <020%203549%205449> > Website: http://iris.ucl.ac.uk/iris/browse/profile?upi=ABANE83 > Twitter:amibanerjee1 > >