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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Perhaps some useful (comparative) material is contained in Adrian Mihai, L'Hadès céleste: histoire du purgatoire dans l'Antiquité. Paris: 2015. In this work, the author analizes a three-fold division of the “Hadès céleste”, identified by him as a sort of ancient cosmic place forerunner of Christian purgatory (pace Le Goff)... Best, Dav From: Eileen Gardiner Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 5:23 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [M-R] 'levels' of purgatory medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Hi, Actually my book does cover this particular vision on pp. 223–25 and includes a brief bibliography of five works on this text, but my discussion does not go into your particular question, to which I don’t know the answer. I have never come across this three-fold division of purgatory in any other context that I can recall. I don’t know if Marta Harley, who edited this text in the 1980s, went into this question, but you might want to look at her edition (and translation) Harley, Marta Powell. A Revelation of Purgatory by an Unknown, Fifteenth-Century Woman Visionary: Introduction, Critical Text, and Translation. Lewiston: E. Mellen Press, 1985. Two other works that might be helpful are: Moreira, Isabel. Heaven's Purge: Purgatory in Late Antiquity. New York: Oxford University Press, 2010. (Even though her discussion focuses on an earlier period, she is up-to-date on all things purgatory.) Carozzi, Claude. Le voyage de l'âme dans l'au-delà, d'après la littérature latine: Ve-XIIIe siècle. Roma, Italie: Ecole française de Rome, 1994. I have the feeling, however, that this description is anomalous, but I’d definitely be curious to know if you find out otherwise. Best, Eileen Eileen Gardiner 595 Main Street, Suite 605 New York, NY 10044 917-428-1404 [log in to unmask] On Jan 4, 2017, at 8:16 AM, Thomas Izbicki <[log in to unmask]> wrote: medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Le Goff discusses these three purgatories, esp. in his chapter on Scholastic Systematization, but he does not mention them by the terms used in the anonymous text. The Gardner book is concerned with texts too early for this categorization. Tom Izbicki From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of H.J.M.J. Goris <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 6:57:16 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [M-R] 'levels' of purgatory medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture might these three purgatories be alternative names for the Limbo of the fathers (purgatory of justice?), Limbo of the unbaptized infants (purgatory of mercy?) and the 'normal' purgatory (purgatory of grace?). Best, Harm dr Harm Goris senior lecturer in systematic theology School of Catholic Theology (Utrecht campus) Tilburg University phone: +31 13 466 3821 Office: Nieuwegracht 65, room U205, Utrecht Postal address: TST, P.O. Box 80101, NL 3508 TC Utrecht, The Netherlands Van: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture [[log in to unmask]] namens Paul Chandler [[log in to unmask]] Verzonden: woensdag 4 januari 2017 8:34 Aan: [log in to unmask] Onderwerp: Re: [M-R] 'levels' of purgatory medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Meg, I don't think these levels of purgatory are part of the "official" teaching on the subject. I just checked the relevant section in Ludwig Ott's Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma (1952), a handy guide for such things, and there is nothing of the kind there. The Supplement to Thomas Aquinas' Summa says only that the intensity and duration of the purgation are proportional to the faults (Summa theol., III, Supplementum, q. 70, art. 3 <http://www.newadvent.org/summa/5070.htm>). I think this idea is more likely to come from the visions of purgatory so common among mystics, especially women, in the medieval period. If memory serves St Francesca Romana (d. 1444) also saw a three-level purgatory, but I'm not sure if she was before or after the anonymous author you mention. The latest serious work on the idea of purgatory is Diana Walsh Pasulka, Heaven Can Wait: Purgatory in Catholic Devotional and Popular Culture, Oxford: OUP, 2015; and of course there is Jacques Le Goff's The Birth of Purgatory, Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1984. Eileen Gardiner (ed.), Medieval Visions of Heaven and Hell: A Sourcebook New York: Garland Pub, 1993, might also be helpful. -- Paul On 4 January 2017 at 11:15, Cormack, Margaret Jean <[log in to unmask]> wrote: medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture In Medieval Writings on Female Spirituality ed. with an introduction and notes by Elizabeth Spearing. Penguin Books. 2002 p. 223 an anonymous visionary mentions 3 types of purgatory, the purgatory of justice, purgatory of mercy, purgatory of grace. Has anyone heard of these levels of purgatory in a more learned theological context? Thanks and Happy New Year, Meg ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion -- Paul Chandler, O.Carm. 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