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Apparently it's not a new thing either http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/01/13/there-were-secret-same-sex-weddings-in-the-16th-century/?utm_source=ET&utm_medium=ETFB&utm_campaign=portal&utm_content=inf_17_60_2&tse_id=INF_9ac4aed0d9c311e6a03c354c456e1db2


Laila El-Metoui

LGBT Education Consultant & Teacher Educator

www.lelmeducation.com<http://www.lelmeducation.moonfruit.com/>

https://lelmeducation.wordpress.com/

Adult Education Director Schools Out UK http://www.schools-out.org.uk<http://www.schools-out.org.uk/>

Member of Action for ESOL http://actionforesol.org/

Institutional of  NATECLA London https://nateclaldn.wordpress.com/

Supporter The Ruth Hayman Trust http://www.ruthhaymantrust.org.uk/

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On 14 Jan 2017, at 09:45, Duncan, Sam <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

Hi Laila and all,

Happy New Year and this is a very useful and thought-provoking discussion. Wonderful email this morning from Linda Duckenfield.

I have to say, though, that in my view the below message goes against the etiquette of a forum like this.

I think a conversation is either private, or if you or the other person want to share these important concerns, this should be done through an email to the group, addressing Nicolas and others directly, as in previous messages. Including a snippet of a conversation about Nicolas (or anyone else), in the third person, talking about him rather than to him, seems to run counter to the respectful nature of this forum.

But yes, the question of who we are and where we are based is important.

All best wishes,

Sam


Sam  Duncan
Senior Lecturer in Adult Education and Literacies
Co-Director, Centre for Post-14 Education and Work
Room 825b
Department of Education, Practice and Society
UCL Institute of Education
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London WC1H 0AL
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From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Laila El-Metoui
Sent: 13 January 2017 19:31
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: A lesson plan on the history of weddings

I got this message privately as a result of this thread , they did not feel they wanted to be identified but I have to say that I would agree with their view to a certain extend, even though we are an international forum , most of us here (please correct me if am wrong ) are either academics or ESOL practitioners, I've seen some posts from our South African colleagues, we may well have ESL from the US, but I don't think am mistaken in thinking this group is mostly ESOL & UK based ?
This is what the private comment stated

' If he’s marketing to an ESOL group then the materials should at least be appropriate for an ESOL context. If he doesn’t feel that he has the ‘depth of knowledge’ to be inclusive then how is he qualified to email out materials to such a big audience of ESOL professionals? '

Quite confrontational but understandable, when I know the author of this comment identifies as lgbt in the uk and in ESOL , so their anger is understandable

So the other question raised here for me is who we are as this big invisible email group and where are we based

Laila El-Metoui

LGBT Education Consultant & Teacher Educator

www.lelmeducation.com<http://www.lelmeducation.moonfruit.com/>

https://lelmeducation.wordpress.com/

Adult Education Director Schools Out UK http://www.schools-out.org.uk<http://www.schools-out.org.uk/>

Member of Action for ESOL http://actionforesol.org/

Institutional of  NATECLA London https://nateclaldn.wordpress.com/

Supporter The Ruth Hayman Trust http://www.ruthhaymantrust.org.uk/

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On 13 Jan 2017, at 19:08, Laila El-Metoui <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Thank you Nicolas for taking the time to clarify
If you're interested in being inclusive of lgbt lives and issues , I'd be more than happy to help
I delivered an international live streamed seminar for the British Council which looks at their lives and issues
If you look at my Wordpress site you will find a wealth of resources  including links to plan and resources

https://lelmeducation.wordpress.com/
I wish I had the capacity to improve on your resources, sadly not just yet but I'd like to invite anyone on this forum to suggest improvement

I have just finished designing a teaching pack which embeds trans and non binary lives which I'll make available free once it's published (at the end of this month) the intro and front section of the pack deals with how to embed lgbt lives and issues and offers practical tips for inclusion if this is your first time or if you're unsure of how to deal with discrimination.

Thank you for taking the time to clarify and offer to be more inclusive, I totally understand the challenges of working with an international audience who could be working in countries where it is illegal to be you. When I delivered the BC seminar , the same 'how to ' questions arose as well as fear for personal safety for  teachers as well as students
Really good to have this opportunity to revisit this topic again , thank you

Laila El-Metoui

LGBT Education Consultant & Teacher Educator

https://lelmeducation.wordpress.com/

Adult Education Director Schools Out UK http://www.schools-out.org.uk<http://www.schools-out.org.uk/>

Member of Action for ESOL http://actionforesol.org/

Institutional of  NATECLA London https://nateclaldn.wordpress.com/

Supporter The Ruth Hayman Trust http://www.ruthhaymantrust.org.uk/

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On 13 Jan 2017, at 15:59, Nicholas Peachey <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hi Laila

Thanks for your feedback. I think there are a few issues within it which I feel I ought to address and clear up.

The purpose of taking email addresses before  download the lesson plan is:
1. to give me some copyright protection (Payhip stamps your email address onto the copy that you download, so that if you start posting it to file sharing sites or reselling it I can trace it back to you - Though I’m not sure what I could do about it then!)
2. When I make changes or improvements to the materials I’m able to send a free code to the people who bought it so that they can update to the new version. For me this is one of the great strengths of digital publishing.

As for building an email list to market to - I’d love to do that, but it’s illegal - You will get a message though after you download the materials with a thank you and a link to subscribe to my newsletter (also free)https://tinyletter.com/technogogy/ and of course I do hope that people will do that.

My reason for sharing the materials for free through this list are these:
1. To get some feedback on the materials and see what people think of them (thanks yours has been very helpful)
2. To build brand and try to convince people that self / independently published materials can have the quality of the established / mainstream publishers and to prove to people that it is now viable to step outside of and operate outside of the ELT publisher controlled world. Because for me this makes a much broader range of materials available and many that wouldn’t be commercially viable for the paper orientated publishing world. It also makes it possible for teachers like myself to potentially become more independent and get a bit more control over their lives and the way they generate income.

As an independent it’s very difficult to achieve this and http://peacheypublications.com/ is very much my personal hobby not some big company. I still have to do the day job and don’t foresee the time when this will make enough money for me to give that up especially at the prices I charge (The week after I won the British Council Innovations Award for my first book I sold an amazing 10 copies of the book which made about an extra £20!) but at the same time I don’t see why I or anyone else should be ashamed to be providing a commercial service. The small amount of money I do generate helps me buy back more time from my day job to push forward what I feel is valuable work.

On the issue of EFL or ESOL the main aim of the materials is to develop digital literacies and critical thinking skills and I think these are equally important for learners of either.

As for your main issue regarding inclusion of LGBT issues. I tend to build the plans around any authentic infographics which I feel will be of interest to students and I liked this one and found it interesting even though it didn’t address any LGBT issues.

For me the important issues within all of these plans is developing digital literacies and critical thinking and that’s what I tend to focus on as I feel it is the most potentially empowering aspect of the work.

To be honest I probably don’t touch on LGBT issue because I simply don’t feel I have the depth of knowledge or experience or feel well enough informed to advise teachers on how to handle these issues, especially in the wide range of international cultures and contexts within which English is taught.

I don’t however feel that this needs to be an opportunity missed. If you wish to look at the plan and can write a supplement for it to help teachers deal with those issues I’d be more than happy to make it available.

Thanks again and best wishes


Nik Peachey | Learning Technology Consultant, Writer, Teacher Trainer
Co-Founder http://peacheypublications.com/
Winner 2016 British Council ELTon Award for Innovation in Teacher Resources
Winner 2012 British Council ELTon Award for Excellence in Course Innovation

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