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Sans truth, sans sense, sans wit, sans everything On 20 January 2017 at 08:28, Drew Milne <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > fake news, > > Drew > > On 20/01/2017 08:03, David Bircumshaw wrote: > > Mr Lace, there is no EVIDENCE at all that either Mary Sidney, Francis > Bacon, the Earl of Oxford or Derby or a posthumous Christopher Marlowe > wrote the works of William Shakespeare. None whatsoever. > > What began as a crackpot delusion about Bacon is now a small industry and > there is money and the status of publication involved, that's what the > 'question' is now really about. It is almost an ideal intellectual beauty > spot for the small-time charlatan or liar, you know, the sort that doesn't > quite aspire to the Presidency of the USA but is happy to impress a few > lost souls with some shiny little post-truths. Like wish-you-were-here's > from hell. > > As you cite the wikipedia article let me do so too: "No such direct > evidence <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_evidence> exists for any > other candidate,[14] > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_authorship_question#cite_note-15> > and Shakespeare's authorship was not questioned during his lifetime or for > centuries after his death.[15]" > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_authorship_question#cite_note-16> > > > > > On 19 January 2017 at 21:05, David Lace <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> David, your arguments are a bit skimpy and don't really supply any >> evidence. The following link to the Wikipedia article on the controversy is >> well sourced and a good starting point for people to investigate the matter. >> >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_authorship_question >> >> >> >> ---------------Original Message------------ >> >> >> David Bircumshaw wrote: >> >> >> Ok then lets take a look at this article. >> >> Paragraph 1 : "For four hundred years there has been a question about the >> authorship of the Shakespearean works." >> >> No, there hasn't. Apart from a sniffy eighteenth century parson the >> Question never became prominent until the advent of Delia Bacon. >> >> "the problem is that William Shakespeare, the man from >> Stratford-upon-Avon, was not acknowledged as a writer in any documentation >> of the time." >> >> Yes he was, from Francis Meres on there are explicit identifications of >> Shakespeare as a writer. >> >> "There is no evidence he was ever present in the royal court, where most >> of the plays take place." There are records of the King's Men being present >> at the Court, ample documentation of the plays at court and lists of the >> players in the Royal Household records (alongside the pantry staff) with >> Shakespeare at their head. >> >> "There is no evidence that anyone noticed when he died." Except for the >> First Folio. >> >> "There are no records from anyone in which Shakespeare is personally >> referred to as a writer (read the contemporary mentions of William >> Shakespeare carefully—the works are referred to, not the man)." >> >> Apart from Ben Jonson, Hemming, Condell etc etc. One might also mention >> Milton, who, though only 7 when WS died, had no doubt about his authorship >> and wrote a poem for the Second Folio. >> >> Literary London was even tighter and smaller than now - a deception on >> the scale required would not have held. >> > > > > -- > David Joseph Bircumshaw > > http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk/ > <https://spectares-web.000webhostapp.com/> > > The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw > Tumblr: http://zantikus.tumblr.com/ > twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave > blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/ > > > -- David Joseph Bircumshaw http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk/ <https://spectares-web.000webhostapp.com/> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw Tumblr: http://zantikus.tumblr.com/ twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/