Hi

I’ve read this thread with interest. I do not offer flu vaccinations due to being a standalone OHA with limited time to perform the core functions of my role. I too think it would be interesting if it had any effect on reducing sick absence.

It does seem, in my opinion, that the best solution is to give the information re vaccines to the individual to take to his GP practice. Just out of curiosity, what do pharmacies do and, I believe, supermarkets also offer flu vaccines?

Cheers H

Hazel Archer

Occupational Health Adviser

Greggs Bakery Leeds

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Dear Joanna,

 

Thank you for giving me a view of this situation that I had not considered.  As OH is a public health specialism I feel that we do have a duty to work with other public health professionals so that a joined up way of working can be achieved, and the information/stats that are collected for this simple activity is really interesting and something that I feel that I could contribute to in a relatively easy way by giving the individual the information to pass to their own GP.

 

I know we are busy in OH and have lots to consider, however I do think that this could have an added value to the community in which we work and have an impact upon vaccine development by the sounds of it, I will definitely consider this when discussing flu vaccination clinics in the future.

 

Kind Regards

Sarah

 

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From: King Joanna [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 05 October 2016 16:12
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Advice on how to inform GP's of flu vaccination

 

Hi all,

 

I am a GP as well as OH Dr. This is the 1st time I have posted so please bear with me!

 

It is really important that Gps know what vaccinations (and other treatments) have been given. I think this for several reasons.

It is usually us people will come to if they have a complication so we need to know what they have had and when.

It is also important to keep accurate information on the medical records. We get asked for this kind of information quite a lot – for example when people are going travelling or  applying for various posts! People also forget what they have had and when – I know that is a bit patronising but we spend a lot of time chasing information up and trying to find things out for them, we would much rather have it on their records in the 1^st place.

In addition we have the QOF framework and general population eligibility framework to invite people in to have the jab. We have to invite anyone on the QOF framework 3 times.  If they have had it elsewhere and we don’t know we can’t keep an accurate record. You would be perhaps surprised by how many people just assume we know things that have happened somewhere else.

The government/Public health collect the data from us to be used to look at population uptake levels (and presumably vs how many people are getting flu etc). We receive feedback on this

Some of the information affects how we are paid (which I accept one could argue is no-one else’s problem).

 

So you are right -  a lot of it is about stats, some of which feels a bit pointless at times, but some of those stats are really important. For example if a certain batch of vaccine was found to be ineffective/causing complications or if there was a flu epidemic despite high uptake levels etc. A unified data set is needed to be able to back track what has happened and Gps provide this.

 

We code ones given elsewhere differently on the record to those given at the surgery.

 

I don’t think you should take on informing the GP yourself, I would suggest providing a slip or something similar stating the date, site of immunisation, manufacturer and batch number for the person to hand into their surgery. The surgery will add this to the persons records. As far as I am aware the vaccines have sheets or stickers provided with them (The ones we use at the surgery come with this to give to patients – even though we have administered the jab we can still give them the data so that they can show another health care provider should a complication arise)

 

We provide private flu clinics to some of our OH clients and have a consent form and a separate sheet with the imms information we hand to the clients to give to their surgery.

 

I hope this helps give a GP perspective on this. As the person coordinating the immunisation of about 10,000 patients in my own practice I can assure you it is helpful information to have!

 

Many thanks

Joanna

 

Dr Joanna King

Gp Partner Mendip Vale Medical Practice

Mendip Vale Occupational Health

 

From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Parsons Helen Margert (KING'S COLLEGE HOSPITAL NHS FOUNDATION TRUST)
Sent: 05 October 2016 14:36
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Advice on how to inform GP's of flu vaccination

 

I don't give this information either unless someone requests it.    TBH why should anyone have to 'prove' to their GP that they have had the vaccine?   Its not compulsory and we shouldn't be treating people like children and nor should the GP.   I've done a flu clinic today and a few people have popped in to say they have already had it at their GP.  As a Trust we ask them to fill out a form stating that so that we can add them to our stats of vaccinated staff however I take this on Trust and would not dream of asking a grown adult to prove that they have done something that is voluntary in the first place!   Not sure why the GP needs the proof, presume like us its for their stats, however they should take people on Trust IMO.

 

H

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From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Heather Wawryka <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 05 October 2016 13:40
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Advice on how to inform GP's of flu vaccination

 

Hi, 

I don't inform the individual clients GP's unless they say or confirm to me that they are on the GP recall list for an underlying medical condition. 

I give a slip with vaccine details on it, using the spare sticker (batch & expiry date) from the vaccine. 

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I was hoping to get your views/advice on how you inform staff member’s GP’s after giving them the flu vaccination. Do you give staff member’s slips to hand to their GP or do you inform the GP’s yourselves?

 

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