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Sorry Robin but I really do not understand your second sentence below - particularly the pedestal thing, and as for 'unique adoration', well. this is so far from the truth it's ridiculous and I don't know what I've said here that makes you think it. One of the biggest problems with the way lists like this function is the way we often have to repeat something we said a lot earlier in the exchanges, and when there is a lot of it and followed by hundreds of other posts it just gets lost. Near the start of the discussion I mentioned the fact that I had very mixed and complicated feelings regarding Dylan, both the man and the output, and I think I even said somewhere that I never put anybody on a pedestal, ever. The fact that culturally Dylan is on a pedestal has got nothing to do with me, but of course I will have opinions regarding that fact. So, what the hell are you talking about? Regarding the 'ripping him out of his context'? Which context? Dylan it seems to me has always questioned and ripped himself out of 'contexts'. Are you saying that the tradition Dylan walked into is the only context that is important? And so much could be said about that so-called 'tradition' at the time anyway, the folk boom of the early 60's America, with its various colours and disparate roots, let alone the way it evolved in urban liberal coffee houses frequented mainly by young, white, radically political and culturally liberal middle class 'folk', that it is just meaningless to refer to Dylan as some sort of 'inheritor' of anything. Where you are exactly coming from Robin, on this topic, needs clarification. Cheers Tim On 29 Oct 2016, at 16:10, Robin Hamilton wrote: > Deep down, we're probably seeing different Dylans. When I look at him, I see (among other things) the inheritor of a particular tradition, the young Dylan sitting beside the aged Blind Willie McTell, both with their guitars, both singing the blues. Sure, he extends the tradition, but he's still part of it, and I get the sense, perhaps unfairly, that you want to do to him what was done to Shakespeare, rip him out of his context and set him up on a pedestal as an object for Unique Adoration. > >